So I am admittedly a bisexual girl, but I am also a Christian (though I hate the label because of the sterotypes that come with it). I came out in the fall of my senior year to my parents and sort of my church, since gossip spreads. Because I had attempted to sign up for a missions trip, my pastor talked to me saying that if I was bi or gay that I couldn't go. So I kind of turned it into a joke and said that it was just a phase probably and I'd get over it soon. He took me at my word and I was able to go. But I could never shake the feeling that I was just being ridiculous supressing it. Right before I started college (Christian/Baptist college by the way), by days, I started dating this amazing guy and I figured that I wouldn't have to worry about being bi, really since I am in love with him :blush5: though I did tell my first roommate, since it was a new relationship and all. My second roommate, I hadn't thought about bringing it since I was certain I was in love with my Monkey by the time I moved in with her. One time though, she was ranting about an old friend of hers being gay and he had a profile picture on his facebook kissing his boyfriend and how disgusting it was, I couldn't help but tell her about me. She was fine with it but chose to stop joking about us being "married" and going on roommate "dates" anymore (sheltered pastors daughter). After that, I got a talk with my Resident Director of my dorm about it, and I'm certian that she told the RD about me. And I explained that though I did like girls, I am in love with boyfriend Now the question: Was I right in supressing it in the first place? What about telling my roommates (on my third and I'm still a freshman ><) as courteousy? Or what about now? By the way, going to a non christian school isn't an option for me, as decreed by my parents, the wallet for this education.
When I was very young I discovered that I had to be careful about what I said and did around my parents and other adults. There is a difference between suppressing or just being cool. So first off, stop thinking about keeping things to yourself as suppressing. Go along to get along. If you are in love with your boyfriend, and can keep your bi desires to yourself while in school, you'll make life easer on yourself. When you are though with your education, or can finance it yourself, you can take a different attitude. If your boyfriend is cool with your bisexuality, and is not hurt if you have a girlfriend to play with from time to time, that would be cool. Just be sure he knows he is not competing with your girlfriend, and your first love is him. Just be cool. At 18 years old you have lots of time to work thing out. There no need to rush and make poor decisions. I hope this is helpful. I just think people should be happy, and that's a personal decision. You should decide to be happy no matter what bs is coming down around you. It makes life easer. <(^o^)>
Yeah, Out vs Undercover, was certainly a mind trip for me in my teens. You can be bleedingly obvious in some ways, but as long as you dont say outload that you are gay everyone just goes along with the denial.... its bizarre Its the same like that in the straight world too, like there is one act everyone puts on for the kids and do whatever in private: open relationships, swinging, secret bi stuff and other stuff. As for The Church vs Gay stuff, nothing is what it seems on the surface, especially in Catholicism, a "celebate" priest is the perfect job for a closeted gay guy, its very social, emotive and he doesnt have to shack up with a woman. Similar thing with the Nunnery. As for your friend reacting to two guys kissing, you dont have to fight the good fight for us, we know about that. We know most girls wont say anything out loud to us most of the time, they are trained to avoid confrontation. Its not really about us, giving the amount of straight guys that are pricks when it comes to women, a scary concept for a teen girl to think half the nice guys out there arent into girls. And its something that gets worse as we get older. One set of rules for gay teens, another completely different set of rules when its too guys that look like they should be dads
No to insult your religion, but it plays a huge part in the victimization of gay people. I mean, not letting someone go on a trip because of being bisexual? That's stupid. You were not wrong in telling anyone, and although I agree that you shouldn't go shouting it from the rooftops, you shouldn't feel the need to keep it in certain company. Where are you from? I have read so many things on gays and religion, and it seems there's a much different way of treating the situation in America for example. I am from the UK, and it's rarely mentioned, since a lot less people are religious these days. Your friend, mentioning the gay kiss picture, is simply naive to homosexuality. Probably expressing the opinion of a different generation (Parents, for example). Gay people are simply different, and the average folk will fear that difference. Try not to be offended by what anyone says, no one will agree on everything. There are plenty of thing strait people do I couldn't fathom All in all, since you are going to a catholic school, for the sake of peace, I suppose keep it on the down low. Although I must commend you, coming out to your family is hard enough, but to the church, that really proves you were trying to be honest by yourself.
From what I read in the Bible, homosexuality is an abomination before GOD, so I cant understand why gays/bis what to worship a God That despises them. I'm not flaming or picking out anyone. It's just my impression on what the bible reads, and I have wondered about it since Billie Jean came out of the closet. I mean I couldnt do it, ya know go to church being gay and knowing what God said about gays. I'm not anti-gay and not trying to say that gays are an abomination, but that Is what the bible claims. So I dont get it?!? Could someone explain it intelligently. sh
i think there's just lots of room for various interpretations of what the bible actually says (multiple translations complicate it), plus there's also varying interpretations of what the intentions of certain biblical passages were and who they were intended to apply to. trying to interpret the bible literally is more difficult than it at first appears. generally speaking though, a practicing christian is not supposed to hate anyone.
So, what your saying is that if you dont like what the bible says you can just ignore that part or dismiss it as interpretation. I didnt say Christains were hating, I'm saying that is what is touted that God himself said in the KJ version, which is what Christains read. From what I get from the bible, having really studied it inside out. There are a set of rules that one must follow as a Christian. The Word Of God, if I'm not mistaken. So, you can see where my confusion begins as to why gays would want to be in a chruch that is bigoted against them. Do other 'straight' Christains just forgetaboutit and if so, then wouldnt that suggest that you can ignore at your own leasure. Dont you have to believe the whole bible or none of it. Blind Faith. to be babatised. Isnt that why babalon and Sodom/Gammora was distroyed bc they did not adhear to the word. Also Adam n Eve and Lot's wife and so on. So, we can pick and choose now as the new age has arrived and all hell is busting loose?!?
If there was various interpretations for what the bible says then why are Christians so prejudiced? If we all looked at it in our own way, gay people wouldn't be victimized. End of.
Although I know being gay is against the bible, and I've researched into it, I can't seem to deny that I do also like girls as well as guys. I guess it's my own personal rejection of what I know the bible says.
God didnt say anything about gays, the bible did. And even then its only Leviticus - who was a bit of a whackjob anyway, and I think it was Peter or Paul that gave some vague reference to effemes. There's not really anything terribly specific in the bible. Leviticus calls it an abomination, but there isnt actually anthing in their that says its a sin. If it was it would be one of the ten commandments. On top of that, what most know of the Christian Bible today was edited in the 3rd Century, and over an over again, and again for King James. If you want to look into it, read Genesis as it reads today, then compare it to the opening of The Book of Jubilees, which supposedly is non canon, although whoever decided what is canon is a mystery. Anyway The Book of Jubilees talks about Cain and Able getting it on with their sisters to make babies, and there kids doing each other to make babies. Stuff that is conveniently left out of Genesis. In other words, you'd first have to work out what "The Bible" is before you try and interpret it literally, and then anyone can interpret it prety mch anyway they please. When it comes down to it, the only question to really ask is "What would Jesus say?"
I not trying to quote anything or dis anyone's religion, or sexual preference. I just thought if a religion cast out my lifestyle I would find a different church that was more tolerant. That's all I'm saying. It would make me feel conspicuous, I would also feel 'damned' if they ever brought it up in a sermon and I was sitting there. Actually, the Catholics are more tolerant then say the southern Babitist or the Jehova's Witness. I studied many religions, Out of all the religions I have studied I find myself flowing to the Book Of Tao more readily then anyother. What would Jesus say? Well he might have said something like this. Peace my brothers and sisters. I have a message from our creator, our Father who art in heaven. The message is, Do what Thy Will and be happy, but harm no other in the process. Be clean in body and mind, help them who cannot help themselves, cultivate the Earth and bring forth offspring to love and charish and to grow strong and useful. Honor all as you would honor yourself, we are all from the same spiecies and no 1 is above the rest. Or something along those thoes lines. Just like any true Hippie would say. Then he would get back in his spacecraft and head back to mothership.
I heard a rumor that Jesus was to be taken out of the bible, that will narrow them 66 little books down in a hurry, I mean what would be left, what would be the point of having what was left. From my interpretation of what the bible is, It's letters from the Disciples to each other, writing about what Jesus said or did and events that happened along the way. There were very few that GOD talked to. He did communicate with King David, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and a few others or so we are told. I only know what I have read. The rest is blind faith for those that follow that path, or any path for that matter. Bright Blessings on your journey sh
here's a site which explains how interpretation can make all the difference. http://www.truthsetsfree.net/study.html
i think seperating religion from this for amoment, your issue over whether to tell your roommates is a personal one, and you should do only what you feel comfortable doing, and what feels right in your heart. i think your second roommate, you were right to tell her when you did, i would have done the same. equally i can understand why you dont tell your roommates right out. if i lived with another girl in close quarters, i would be reluctant to talk about my sexuality unless i felt absolutely confident that i would get no hostility from her, and that she wouldnt misunderstand why i was telling her. you have to live with these people and you owe it to yourself to make it as easy as possible day to day. it sounds to me like your living in a place that isnt the most tolerant towards non-heterosexuality, and it sounds like you've met with some prejudice already - soft prejudice, not people with placards trying to burn you... but prejudice all the same. only you can decide whether the effort of keeping your sexuality a secret until you are in a more accepting environment is gonna be harder than coming out to your roommate and living with the consequences of that.
