Interesting video, what do you think?

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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  2. HushBull

    HushBull Insuperior

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    i'd do her
     
  3. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    Ive seen this chick before, she doesnt back up anything she says, this is an example of an "authority" causing obedience in thinking in those who are part of the "in group" who are bias and suspicious of what else there is, the "availability heuristic" causes a distorted view especially in those who hold true to "belief perseverance"

    not to say shes wrong about everything but who the hell is she? puts on a suit and talks about politics, she must be right!
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    She doesn’t back up anything she says?

    In this particular video she is reading from a document, which is easily verifiable, and is asking only if YOU think that particular item has been accomplished.

    She has not stated that they have been accomplished and thus needing verification but merely asking what YOU think.

    Your comment merely sidesteps the questions.

    So once again the questions to you are:

    Do you think these things are true?
    Do you think that the agenda that was read is still being put forth today?
    Do you think this is a danger to the U.S.?
    Is all of this just a coincidence?
    Etc.
     
  5. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    What's her name (can't view vid)
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It doesn't say her name but it's from:

    https://www.youtube.com/psychetruth

    It's heading is: "Against the USA, Naked Communist Conspiracy Theory, NWO, Mind Control Report". Maybe you can just pop that title into youtube.
     
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  8. drew5147

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    Bitch is dumb
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's Cleon SKOUSEN she refers to at the beginning of the video. She calls him Cleon "Skeuzman." Skousen's two books, The Naked Capitalist (an overview of Carroll Quigley's Tragedy & Hope) and The Naked Communist, are both highly recommended. I would recommend the former over the latter, though.

    Everything the woman in the video says is on point for the most part and can definitely be supported by documented evidence. However, I could have went much further than she did. She does not make it clear that communism is a product of finance capitalism -- ie. the international banking elite. The same people that gave us capitalism, also gave us communism. Communism is the antithesis to the thesis of capitalism in the Hegelian dialectic. The two have been played off against one another to create an outcome which is neither capitalist or communist, but rather a synthesis of the two.

    It's important to know that communism is merely a TOOL of the global elite. The elite themselves are neither capitalist or communist, but they have used communism/socialism (under various names -- ie. liberalism) to destroy national sovereignty move us in the direction of a WORLD GOVERNMENT. The so-called "wealthy capitalists" are the ones who funded communism into existence. They are monopoly capitalists, and there is no better way of consolidation of wealth and power than by socialism-communism, because it uses the state as a means of monopoly control over society.

    Everything the communists outlined is happening today in the US (and Canada and Australia and Europe and almost every place else).

    This video is by Psychetruth, which is a popular handle on YouTube covering alternative health and news. I am not sure who this woman is, however. She certainly doesn't seem like an expert on the subject, but the little she did say is accurate.
     
  10. Hippie McRaver

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    In group = In sociology, an in group is a social group towards which an individual feels loyalty and respect

    availability heuristic = The availability heuristic is a phenomenon (which can result in a cognitive bias) in which people base their prediction of the frequency of an event or the proportion within a population based on how easily an example can be brought to mind.

    belief perseverance = In psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias is a tendency to search for or interpret new information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions and to avoid information and interpretations which contradict prior beliefs.


    and the icing on the cake
    http://library.nhsggc.org.uk/mediaA...nership/Peper 2 27th Nov Milgram_Study KT.pdf

    Like I said earlier, I am not saying she is necessarily wrong, I just don't buy it, and as far as my thoughts are concerned
    yeh, that is all about me

    so chill! just adding to the debate.
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    You don't have to "buy it" because the video is not even based on her or anyone else's opinion. She's simply reading from the "communist goals" document that was read in front of Congress back in the 60s.

    http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/communist-goals-congressional.htm

    Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES -
    January 10, 1963

    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states....

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests....

    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces....

    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities. [done]

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems. ...
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    In testimony delivered by Norman Dodd, the chief investigator in 1953 for the Reece Committee investigation into the tax-exempt foundations, he quotes Rowan Gaither, the then-head of the Ford Foundation, as stating:

    "The Ford Foundation’s personnel are continuing to operate under directives from the White House to so alter life in America as to make possible a comfortable merger with the Soviet Union."

    You can watch an interview Dodd gave in the early 80s on the so-called communist infiltration of the US government here:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8605813744843314322

    A book I highly recommend, which came out of the Reece Committee hearings, is the book titled Foundations: Their Power and Influence, by Rene A. Wormser

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  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Actually, I destroyed Joe McCarthy because I introduced him to the real origins of Communism, which was the international bankers. He knew nothing about that. He thought Communists were little Jewish tailors on the Lower East Side of New York.

    I showed him the connections between international bankers like the Rothschilds and Communism. You can't have a worldwide movement without a lot of money behind it. It's like when the circus comes to town. You have to pay someone to hang the posters.

    Eustace Mullins [Interview 2003] by Tom Valentine
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY (1971) by Gary Allen
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks for the reprint of "CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS" Pressed Rat, I was wondering which ones had been left out.
     
  17. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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  18. Humminbird

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    The 50's and early 60s was a tumultous time - the cold war was in full swing, the Bay of Pigs, many parts of the world were feeling threatened by the influx of communism. People were afraid. McCarthyism was in full swing.

    Has our culture changed? Yes. Is it all positive, No. But it's not all bad either. It is limited to the US? No. People and their cultures change. We've become hardened, and things that used to bother us don't bother us much anymore. Maybe we've become too complacent. (save that for another thread)

    Do the Russians have us right where they want us? I doubt it.

    BTW, why does she wear revealing skirts and cleavage? More mind control? :eek:

    Ahhhhhhhhhh, so much bullshit, so little time.
     
  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Except it isn't "the Russians." That is the misconception the video promotes. It's the international bankers. I already went over this. They simply made Russia their base for their agenda to spread throughout the world. Many of the alleged communists in government were not working for the Soviets, but the internationalists -- the bankers. THE BANKERS FUNDED COMMUNISM AND ESTABLISHED THE SOVIET SYSTEM IN RUSSIA IN 1917.

    I don't think you even read everything I wrote above. Yes, there were many people around that time who realized the impact communism was having here at home. What many of them did not understand was the root of communism and where it actually originated, which is Wall Street and London.

    McCarthy did not fully understand communism until later on, and when he realized what was going on, and that it was the central bankers that were behind it, they ruined him and forever tarnished his name because he discovered the truth and was thus considered a real threat.
     
  20. Humminbird

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    yea, sorry, short attention span...

    My idea of communism is more in line with wiki's...

    Communism is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general.

    Now that I look at it, maybe you are on to something... ;)
     
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