To all of you damn conspiracy 'theorists'

I've been reading a lot of these 'theories' lately and I'm just wandering if any of you are actually up for doing something about it. I beleive most of this stuff, this is the only place where people don't think i'm completely crazy. So i was just wandering, is anybody here workin on a revolution? I might like to join...

 

Newp. Well, I don't subscribe to conspiracy theory - but I am doing something in my life about the things that I believe in.

 

People need to be informed before they can do anything constructive. At this point, I feel it's probably too late. If this were five or ten years ago, I might say otherwise. But when you have a government that is by the corporations and bankers, and for the corporations and bankers, you find quickly that your say in matters means nothing. Thus, working from within the system to affect change is completely useless. Understanding this is the first part to waking up and being truly alive, versus being a living zombie. I mean, it's obvious to anyone that's aware of what's going on. If the overwhelming majority of the public is against something, the government puts it through anyway. Most people were against the bailout. That didn't matter because they passed it anyway. How much longer can people be stupid enough to think the government -- their so-called "elected officials" -- works for them?

Revolutions are also counterproductive if people don't know what they're revolting against. In this case it actually plays into the system's hands by creating the pretext to declare martial law and wage total war against the civilians. They actually want people to revolt. What they don't want is an informed public that can see through their lies and react in a rational and non-violent way.

The most we can hope for at this point is that those who have been exposed to REAL information exposing the REAL agenda behind all this -- but currently in a state of denial -- will come to their senses once things fall apart and their families come undone, remembering what people like myself and others have told them, and acting accordingly by simply refusing to go along.

If people simply knew what was going on, that alone would be enough to topple their entire illusionary system, because people would not walk into the dialectical traps that have been set for them. The controllers would lose what little credibility they have remaining.

 

I have read alot of the stuff you have posted Rat but this statement is probaly the only statement you've made that a disagree with. I think that it's never too late for anything.Yes, a revolt may have been easier ten years ago,(but then i was too young anyway) but i always seem to get along in life great on the philosophy that if there is a will there is most certainly a way.

 

The best revolt that actually might work at this point in time would be for people to simply STOP participating in those things which they find offensive... Easier said than done for many, but far from impossible with an open mind.

Far as whether people actually "believe" in the alternative theories, a "conspiracy theory" is just that. A theory. As in this could be possibly true, or possibly NOT. As is any story in the Bible just for an example.

Now, anyone who simply says they don't believe in theories, is totally closed minded. A theory, after all, is just someone's (educated) belief that something might be a certain way. So many people who don't "believe" in other people's theories seem to have formed their opinions in a rather limited way.

An open mind is your best friend. With an open mind you neither believe nor disbelieve something which has yet to be solidly proved. You don't make closed minded judgments based on your own limited experiences. Theories are possibilities. And unless we all see something with our own eyes that can not be refuted under any circumstances, what we are witnessing is a set of possibilities. We generally have no way of knowing what went on behind the scenes in most situations. Even if it's something that we are involved in ourselves, if there is more than just one participant we never know absolutely what that others might be doing or thinking while we are not looking. If we begin to THINK and about the unknowns, and wonder what's up, we come up with some of the POSSIBILITIES. This is only a sign that we are actually THINKING! As opposed to taking things only at face value, forming a firm opinion based on limited knowledge, and questioning nothing.

A person who is not afraid to question is a person whose mind is working. It's like having an antenna for a brain. Don't be afraid to ALLOW your mind-antenna to pick up whatever wavelengths it can. This gives you "food for thought" and as in exercising ANY other muscle in your body makes it stronger, allowing your mind to exercise by allowing many different possibilities in to ponder makes your mind stronger. And with a strong mind, you'll realize that it's not so hard to avoid what you don't agree with, not so hard to stop participating in those things you find offensive...

 

DEEP VERY DEEP earthmother....

 

I'm all for questioning but to find true belief in that is like trying to catch a ghost, show me some real evidence for something and i'll have no problem taking action though.

Most are more personal inferences than theories

 

It is the same theories/government underground Kool-Aid as 10 years ago-20-30 years ago.

Y2k, the 80s nuclear scare, the 70s the 60, the same old stories.

FEMA camps, Illuminati agenda at the final stages, master plain, blablabla over and over.

The same theories applied to the most recent crisis..

Why? so people will say.. “it is too late do anything”

Has any government in history ever self imploded to gain more power?
Russia, Asia, Latin America? Not..

Ohh.. but our government is magical illuminati wizards with a master magical plain unlike any other government has ever had..?

 

Except the things that were said would happen, since have or are in the process of happening. Everything I said myself would happen years ago is happening. I was saying back in 2003-2004 that we would see an economic crisis around this time, and sure enough we are. Why? Because I am aware of the agenda. Everything the elite said would happen in their own publications, going back decades, is happening before my eyes, and it is moving ahead at an alarming speed. It's so obvious. That's why anyone who really knows their history can see clear as day what is happening and why.

The problem with a lot of people who scoff at this information is that they don't realize these people plan their agenda to unfold over the course of decades -- not simply years or months. So even if you go back to what people were saying in the 60s and 70s, we are moving in that direction, and it's more clear than ever before. If you don't see it, it's because you don't want to see it.

Also, when I say nothing can be done, I am speaking on a macro level. In other words, the immense suffering that is to soon come to this world on a global scale cannot be prevented at this point. However, people can make personal decisions that affect their own lives in a positive way, to make the best out of what's to come. Part of it entails mental preparation and a sense of oneness with their creator, which comes just from knowing the truth and actually using your brain to look within yourself.

 

It depends what point in history you're referring to. History goes back many thousands of years. But if you were to trace the lineages that were behind the empires throughout history, you would realize that power is never truly lost, but rather is maintained within a network of interbreeding bloodline families that trace back to the ancient world. When one of their empires topples, or appears to topple, they simply move on to the next one while leaving their own in control of the previous. This is how they have expanded their power down through the ages. The next empire to come is to be a truly global empire -- a one world government.

National governments mean nothing to the elite at the top, and the goal is to do away with national sovereignty, so governments do not necessarily self-implode, rather they are imploded by those who ultimately control every nation on this planet through international finance. Governments don't implode to give national government more power, but to make national government appear illegitimate while moving us in the direction of internationalism, or world government. That is what the meaning behind novus ordo seclorum is. The new order of the ages is a one world, fascist/communist government.

 

It was obvious to anyone looking an economic bubble was going to pop..

Just another example of apply the same old illuminati theory to the latest crisis.

Really a government gets stronger by going broke?.. Not.

Then it turns into the realm of myth and story..

The bible?

English interpretations of hieroglyphs?

The unemployed janitors psychic readings of the Mayan calendar?

 

If it was "obvious," then how come I had so many people telling me how "wrong" I was? Also, the bubble was the symptom of a much bigger problem. The bubble was in no way the cause of this mess.

But who said that? And what "government?" It makes the internationalists stronger -- not national governments. National governments are temporary and are also pawns in the game to an extent. They are infiltrated and brought down from within. If you want to create a one world government, then you must first destroy all existing governments. Common sense. So, no, a government does not get stronger, only the people in control of that government. These people are internationalists. They want to see all nation-states dissolve.

So ancient history is irrelevant is what you're saying?

 

I keep seeing you say stuff like this, over and over, you saw it coming, you know what's coming next, well these are nothing but self-serving statements. Why don't you enlighten us with what is coming next in their agenda if you want change?

Are you content to just sit back and say "i was right"?

 

Yes, it is a bigger problem it is an un-sustainable system.. Not a magical illuminati trick.. an unsustainable fiat currency system, all fiat currency systems have collapsed before and leaders did not gain power they lost power..

Tons of people saw it coming the entire school of Austrian economics saw it coming.

So you think NATO will take over the U.S.?

I am asking what ancient history are you talking about?

 

The fiat money system was designed to lead to exactly what we see happening. The Federal Reserve was designed to suck the wealth from the people. It's not that it's unintentionally unsustainable, it's made to be that way. The ability for a few men to print money out of nothing, determine its value, and have the people willingly and unquestioningly use this system and believe in it, is the ultimate magic trick. Magic is simply anything the average person doesn't understand or comprehend. Look at who's profiting and who's losing. Certainly the ultra wealthy are not on the losing end of the stick. In a depression money is never lost -- it is simply transferred from the people, back to the bankers. The bankers control the government, which in turn controls the people.

But who are these "leaders?" The people in the public eye are puppets and always have been. They are frontmen. They run nothing. I don't care if you're talking about modern-day USA or Stalin's Russia. While the presumed leadership may appear to lose power, those behind the scenes never do. The elite also operate according to a time-table. The wars and revolutions of the past 100 years were designed to lead us further in the direction of a world government. The apparent losers are always the pawns in the game.

Eventually NATO will become the world military under the United Nations. The United Nations was established to become the eventual world government, and we've been seeing the progression in that direction for the past 65 years with more and more international laws, regulations and treaties that supercede national sovereignty.

Ancient history based on archeology, geneology, historical records, the writings of Plato, Tacitus, etc..

 

For the naysayers and those content on unquestioningly believing in the manufactured reality they've been conditioned to believe is real since birth, yes, I am content on saying "I was right," because many of these people simply don't want the truth or are even willing to do the research as I painstakingly have done. All they can do is unleash their petty insults. They like being lied to and deceived. So in a way I feel these people are in some way deserving of what's coming. After all, it's their own apathy that ultimately created this mess. If they enjoy licking the boots of their masters and being slaves, well, that's exactly what they're going to get. Have fun in the gulag. Unfortunately you won't have your ipods or your warm, homecooked meals, but those are just the breaks I guess.

 

And what of those who willingly come forth to question their beliefs and be shown the way, yet are only met with blatant egotism like this?

You are just making yourself look like a paranoid delusional even more here.

You have to provide proof for anyone to believe anything. You don't even make a statement about what is going to happen, let alone proof. How are we supposed to believe you if all you do is sit here jacking off your own ego and calling us slaves and shit, and not telling us a damn thing?

You're just as bad as the people you hate if you don't help us realize what it is or how to fight it.

 

Wow you don't know shit about me

 

The people who think I am delusional and paranoid are going to continue thinking that. There is no way of convincing them otherwise, and frankly, I don't wish to. As the saying goes, "let the dead bury their dead." In other words, you cannot wake up the dead. And why are they "dead?" Because they don't think. You can only help those who want to be helped. You can teach the lame to walk, but the dead are already gone. They are a lost cause. Trying to convince these weak-minded, domesticated sheep-people anything is nothing but a waste of time.

Anyone who knows me, knows I am more than willing to help those who want the information. My thread was directed at those who are constantly attacking me without ever bringing anything legitimate to the table. Anyone who has been reading my threads for any length of time knows the things I talk about.

I could spend a half hour trying to explain the basics to you, but it wouldn't be anything that I haven't already said in countless other threads and posts I have written. I would just be repeating myself.

 

It was not directed at you or anyone else in particular. If you think it was, that's your problem.