My "first trip"

I say first trip, but I have done them before. I wasn't as knowledgable about shrooms as I am now and now realise I had a tiny dose, hence I didn't have much of a trip.
But anyways, I'm planning another trip on Saturday and my first question is this ... what would be the recommended dosage? I'm buying 20 grams of fresh Columbian Cubensis (15 for me, 5 for a friend ... he has work early the next day!) from a local shop. I'm hoping 15 is enough. I'm planning on chopping them finely and making them into coffee. How long would I need to boil them for exactly?
Also, as I will be the only person tripping (probably) in a group of, say, 5 people, would this be advisable?

Thanks!

 

Heat destroys psilocin and psilocybin... As such I would not suggest boiling them... Just eat the 15 raw, that should do you good.

 

If the water is just warm, will that also kill the Psilocybin? I don't like the idea of just chewing them up because I hate the taste of any mushrooms and would like to disguise it as best as possible!

 

You can always throw it in a blender with fruit juice or something (kool-aid powder and sugar with little water should make an extremely strong goo, would easily cover up the taste)... Have a shroom smoothie... As long as you don't get it too hot it should be okay, but boiling it will basicaly ruin it...

 

That was probably another reason I didn't trip well the actually first time ... stoopid Dan boiled them! *virtual Dan slap!*

 

mmmmmmmm ... Dan slap ... sounds like Dansak! *drools*

 

well I don't think it's a good idea to eat them raw...your stomach can't digest them that easily and you'll probably get a really bad stomach ache...and also they taste horrible...about boiling them..well I usually take them heated up and and converted into tea and it worked perfectly well for me..and I had a tremendous trip...

 

Personaly I don't really mind the taste... Just chew a bunch up real good, and enjoy the trip... I usualy eat a few fresh one when I'm out gathering them, get a nice body trip going...

 

I highly reccomend making mushroom tea. Check out Erowid, they'll have recipes, instructions, info, everything.

http://www.erowid.org

 

Just chew em up. You might not like being the only one tripping in a group of 5, but 15 grams wet you shouldnt be too far gone so it should be ok. Sometimes it can get rough with 4 sober heads having coherent conversations around you while all you can do is babble nonsense trying to explain the crazy shit going on in ur head. Amusing as hell to the other 4, but if they are good friends they will help you out and you can still have a good time in ur own little world.

 

It would probably be best to just eat them raw, that way, you dont really have to have any paranoia about getting busted as they are legal when not prepared in the uk. Tea can also bring the effects on quicker, which is probably not what you want at first. I've munched them in the cinema with a bag of dorritos before now.

Trip with your friends by all means, but dont trip with mere aquaintances. There is allways the chance that one or two of them might find it ammusing to play with your head, (which can be fun but only if you want it).
If you think you will be comfrotable with all of them then go for it, otherwise pick the one or two out of the bunch who you trust the most (or who have done psychedelics before and will know what you are going through).

If things get a little hairy, don't panic, just keep in mind that the effects will wear off in time and relax, it will always get better. (I sometimes even write a note to myself before I trip just to remind myself what has got me here and why I'm doing it. (I mark the envelope "in case of emergency") I've never had to use it yet, but I think preparation is the key to a good experience.

 

it like fear factor, jus swallow em, i know there all mushy

or dry em in a dark dry sterile environment and eat the 2 grams your left with. (thats what i would do).

although i heard fresh shrooms are slightly more visual

hahaha. i have a science beaker filled with sugar water labeled "antedote" incase anyone of my friends is freaking out. i'd "measure" out there dose and give it to em. you can get amazing results from a placebo if your trippin..lol.

 

Hehe the antidote beaker is an awesome idea! Can't believe I never thought of that before.

 

On the subject of the placebo effect

Purple haze wrote -

you might get a little bit of slight discomfort, unless of course someone else on a forum tells you that you are going to get a really bad stomach ache. (in which case, you probably will get one!)

No offense meant purple, but we all should be a bit carefull about telling a first timer exactly what will happen, it can often end up as a self fullfilling prophecy.

besides, you are recomending he should do something that could land him in jail, whereas if he doesn't prepare them he's done nothing ilegal here in the UK.

 

Well, I might now be throwing them in a blender with some fresh orange juice. There's no heat and hopefully, the orange will help the nasty taste! What do you think?


I like orange ...

 

Oh, and I am with good friends ... and even my sister! (My sister's flat is where I'll be spending the night too) I guess I normally like to be the joker and more 'childish' person in the group so when tripping, I'll be amused by the fact they're laughing at me! Well, that's the plan!

 

heat doesn't destroy psilocybin, but heat does tend to break down psilocin.

it depends on the ratios of these two in your mushrooms. but, i'm willing to be you're gettin psilocybe cubensis, and the active agent in those is psilocybin, and thus will be fine to boil into tea, put on a pizza, etc.

if heat destroyed mushroom potency, mushroom chocolates would be impossible (dumping little mushroomy bits into extremely hot chocolate).

 

Had those mushies and wowwwwwwwwwww ... it was certainly an unforgetable experience! Didn't get many visuals but I just found interest in everything. Me and my friend went for a walk and we went to a lake and just stared into the sky for what seemed like hours and it was so beautiful. It was like everything was new again ... it felt like being a child again with the curiosity and everything. And what makes it better ... I woke up next day feeling on top of the world!


I advise it to anyone considering trying them!

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Haha, that's exactly what it feels like for me too... everything is new again. I'm glad you had a great time.

 

To mask the taste ofd fresh shrooms, try to condense them into a form that will take little time to ingest. I would store them in a fridge for a couple hours, then add a little cold water, blend em up, strain the water off, mix with koolaid, and then eat the mush as fast as possible, maybe add something to them to cover the taste. Then chug the shroom water/koolaid to clean the rest out of your mouth and get it all down. Then drink a cup of regular koolaid to get all the taste gone.