How can this happen?

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by ghtntn, Feb 1, 2009.

  1. ghtntn

    ghtntn Guest

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    One of my good friend happens to be gay. About 2 weeks ago his boyfriend came out to his parents. Long story short,his parents ended up telling them that they didn't love him and were going to send him to some gay camp to "fix" him. He tried to kill himself by pulling the old Heath Ledger and was unfortunately successful. Now I'm not gay or anything, but I love this kid to death and had to comfort him though it all. Please answer me this one question. How can you be such a bigot that you can't love your own child? Is homosexuality such a crime in the world?
     
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  2. not_sad

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    Try to introduce your gay boy friend in a straight family, try to introduce your muslim boy friend in a jew family, try to introduce your chinese boy friend in an arabe family, and try to introduce your gay black african muslim boy friend in a catholic family.

    Some will accept him and some wont. This is all the same story!
     
  3. enk

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    I'm glad your there for him. I hope he's ok. I hope his parents know that they don't really deserve to see him if they don't Love him. Let him know that he is strong enough to be free and independant in this world.

    I wish I knew why the situation has escalated to the state it is now, where people now clutch to such an infantile mentality. The persecution of Homosexuals is cruel, perverse and wicked.
    Your story unfortunately is not unique.
    All throughout the world, people are suffering. They are being Jailed, beaten, and executed for being gay.

    The people that condemn homosexuality are Irrational, unobservant, Ignorant of Logic and reason and pay no attention whatsoever to the natural world they live in.

    My message to these people:

    In your mind you have Idealized Human sexual behavior, and failed to realize it's diversity, which is what the success of Life has always depended on.

    The only thing that your compulsive heterosexualism will do for our world is extinguish it faster. Homosexuality is actually FOR nature. The human world is not seperate or excluded from nature. We are a result of nature, and really, we ARE nature.

    And I do not care for your enigmatic, contradictory and archaic story book, which has been adulterated with false translations and subjective interpretations from the time it was written.
     
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    In here you can replace the word gay or homosexual by jew, muslim, black, foreigner, fat even christian or white in some countries. It is all the same story and all are as rational.
     
  5. enk

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    I agree with you.
    Suffering Is irrelevant to circumstance.
    It's great that we can dissolve variables and concede that 'We ALL suffer'. However the absence distinguishing boundaries appears as an Impossibility of language.
    I don't believe ANY communication can exist without the negotiation of an objective.

    Consider I could have replace all my words with NOTHING, which is by far the most potent method of communication, and would be the only truly adequate description of that which I think you are pointing to.
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Why do you assume the parents didnt love their child?

    A teen coming out is a big turning point for not just that teen, but also the parents. So the parents did handle it properly, lashed out, got confused, said some things they didnt mean, they are only human. The kid isnt the only victim here, the parents have to live the rest of their lives wondering if they'd done something different he'd be alive today. As for the suicide, all teens tend to overdramatize things. Should we criticise the parents for not being able to pick he was close to such actions?, They should have known, right, cos they were the parents, they were closest to him? Wrong, some things about any teens, the parents are the last to know.

    Often in the case of effeminate gay guy coming out, strangers and friends are like d'uh, where as immediate family is heavy in denial, need that little dude to say the G word out loud before it hits them.

    Isnt the dad, after years of raising the kid, knowing something is not quite right, allowed to be a little pissed off at himself for not picking what exactly wasnt quite right before his son had to spell it out for him?

    Isnt the dad allowed to stress and worry he or his wife might have had something to do with it?

    In this case, mum might have just gone along with the dad thinking he'll eventaully come round, whilst secretly feeling glad one son is gay - more likely to stay in close range later on in life, more likely to have buff male friends come visit. Or she might have just been concerned of what that means on the grandchildren front.

    No one knows what is really going on in their heads.

    My main point is, this kind of stuff is best fought not by waving the rainbow flag around, but with a bit of empathy, control, paying attention and working out what the real issue is. On a personal level, any issues they have with us are a little more specific than just that we are gay
     

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