thoughts on evolution

i just found those video... never seen them exept the dinosaur one

 

This is pure bull, which shows absolutely no evidence to support itself. NEXT!

 

WhAT im on the second video, he is right on, if you think about it, how does something come from nothing? how can the big bang happen?

 

This man is making "predictions" based on his faith and interpretation of a book that has done nothing more than shown it's own age. Even though he shows good intent, he remains ignorant to all the evidence that oppose him. Evolution is NOT a religion, there are no inherent beliefs, there are no churches of evolution or any code of conduct of evolution. Evolution is a THEORY that is gaining evidence and support everyday. All you are doing is letting some man speak what YOU believe for you. You didn't even think about this, you just put it out there because it exists and it is something you agree with. You must be happy, seeing how true ignorance is bliss.

 

i guess u just saw the first video..... im on the third vid and a evolutionist is now on.

 

If you don't believe that something can come from nothing, feel free to do so. You would also have to ignore all the work and effort that scientists have been doing over the last century. Are you going to tell me that everything that mankind has been trying to discover can't be true beyond a shadow of a doubt solely because you have faith in your creator? I'd like to take the time to announce that I do believe in "God," but not the way you're thinking of it. I believe in a source of energy and matter that exists either in our universe, or perhaps the "multiverse" which quantum physicists are trying to explain at this very second. I do not believe this entity is alive or even aware of it's own existence, but I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I MUST be right and that you are wrong. I know nothing. You are just going to regurgitate information that has flawed reasoning simply because you are right and the rest of us are wrong.

 

I'm sorry, but once someone declares evolution as a religion, it is obvious to me that he is biased, and I'm not going to waste my time swallowing hogwash.

 

then discussion is over. but its just hard for me to think that first dinosuars then they all get extincted then were rats then monkeys not humens?

but how do you go from rock to fresh?

 

Here's an idea, go to school and LEARN about how these things are possible instead of watching indoctrinating videos on the internet. Just an idea.

 

The big bang is indeed at the frontier of knowledge, and nobody really knows yet the how and why, whether there was "nothing" before it, whether notions such as causality even function when discussing the origin of the universe itself. We're still waiting on that unified theory. (Still none of this provides any evidence whatsoever for a creator, and occam's razor would seem to suggest that whatever the explanation, the cause will likely be something less inherently complex than the universe itself, not more complex, like a god.)

But the big problem here is using our uncertainty about the big bang as if it has any bearing on the theory of evolution. Evolution certainly does not predict that something comes out of nothing, in fact it lays out the steps which would need to occur for complex things to gradually evolve from less complex things. This is a classic creationist move, to conflate two wholly distinct areas of science, to use something we don't yet understand as a criticism of something which is understood very well indeed, and supported by plenty of evidence.

 

and since your "christian" open the bible for once! but then again wouldnt that contract did what your christianity teaching believe?

 

THANK YOU.

 

Creationists are very skilled propagandists, using seemingly plausible, intuitive arguments which will take in the gullible, and those with no comprehension of science and its methods. You have to wonder about the sincerity of some of these seemingly bright individuals who spread this clever propaganda. Some of them must, on some level, see the logical flaws in their position, when confronted with evidence which directly contradicts their beliefs. I'm sure there has to be some disingenuous self-awareness, at least with some of them; is it a desperate attempt to spread their dying creed in the face of an onslaught of reason?

But yes, here we have the classic pattern that when you point of the mistakes inherent in a creationist claim and present them with evidence to the contrary, or evidence which they say does not exist, you're just confronted with silence or yet more transparently false propaganda.

They're tenacious, I'll give them that Keep up the great posts, pixiee:cheers2:

 

i just have a hard time believing that we came from nothing and even from monkeys. I not on evolutionist side nor creationist side. i just found those vids and wanted your thoughts, thank you. i think you guys think am coming from a christian view, but i am really not. but i guess u will reply back with" oh read science books and shit", but then creationist would say the same as i stated to lizardkingmike whos a christian.

 

I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN. When did I ever say that I was? I didn't.

 

I would say that this falls into the concept of cognitive dissonance, which is that when someone is presented with ideas or information that doesn't go along with their previous beliefs or ideals, they choose to believe that it can't be correct.

 

This is because you don't understand the theory. It's not really that complicated or difficult to understand, in fact it's breathtakingly simple. But it does take an intuitive leap of understanding to fully appreciate the wide-ranging implications of a such a simple process.

One common trait in evolution critics (and global warming critics, critics of science and evidence-based understanding generally) is an inability to evaluate different sources of evidence. It may well seem plausible to you that the slick anti-evolution creationist videos posted here have as much intellectual clout as the theory of evolution. But those who have an understanding of science and its processes can quickly spot the fact that there is nothing other than empty speculation and misrepresentation going on. There is simply no evidence being brought, and there is no credible challenge to the evidence which supports evolution.

These gaps in understanding are not anything anyone can fix for you by posting a youtube link, unfortunately, you just need to do a lot of reading, from credible sources. Wikipedia always gets a bad wrap, but I always think it's a pretty good place to start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

 

I'd like to take the time to announce that I do believe in "God,"

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can u at least clear up your gods name? like allah, buddha, jehovah, sheva? so at least your not talking about the christian one

 

i will do my reading on EVO.
but am not standing on no ones side.

 

My god doesn't have a name, and he doesn't fall into any classification whatsoever. He just is, but like I said, I believe in a SOURCE of matter and energy, most people would call this entity "God," I don't.