Women Who Lie About Rape

Hmm. My husband had a false rape charge thrown on him before we were together. He broke up with the girl after she gave him two concussions, and she called it in out of revenge. The only way he got out of it is by pointing out that she was on top. This was before a girl could call rape over consensual but chemically enhanced sex.

That rule bothers me. If I drink a bottle of tequila and drive through a playground, I am responsible for the crime because I DRANK A BOTTLE OF TEQUILA, KNOWING THAT TEQUILA MAKES YOU STUPID, AND DID SOMETHING STUPID. If I share a bottle of tequila and have sex with the man I shared it with, regretting it later, did I not still drink the damned tequila, knowing that tequila makes me stupid? How am I suddenly not responsible for that decision? Even if I initiate sex while we're both out of it, he is the rapist for agreeing. In this situation, wouldn't I be the rapist?

Why hasn't a male come forward with a rape charge when he wakes up naked next to the woman he can't stand to look at? No, he laughs about it with his buddies, and they laugh with him, and the event is over. Switch the positions of the genitalia, and the person waking up is SUCH A VICTIM! Rather than admit to sex with a stranger, she can ruin his life before he even knows that she was there and walk away innocent, pitied even.

I am not saying that rape doesn't happen while people are intoxicated. I just want to see a little consistency. If we're going to have equality, let's have some fucking equality, for men as well.

 

well, technically speaking, a man waking up with a dog doesn't make the man a stupid slut.

 

When I was living in SF, in a commune, a young woman moved into our house. We were attracted to each other and one day she invited me to her room. As we were making out on her bed, she told me that she had been raped before and how horrible it was.

We kept making out and caressing each other. We were getting hornier and hornier and I was ready to get it on with her. Right before we were about to fuck she started saying, "no, no, no" and I backed off.

At first I thought she was saying that because she wanted me to get rough with her and then I remembered her story about being raped. I didn't want to her accusing me of rape so I got up off the bed. Then, she reached over and grabbed my arm and said, "ok" and pulled me on top of her. I didn't know what to think. Why would she say no and then let my fuck her anyway? One thought that ran through my mind was that maybe when she was saying no, no, no, was that she really wanted me to do it because it turned her on.

All I know is that woman tells me no, it means no. If you proceed against her wishes, then it's rape (even if you think she wants it).

 

good move. rape victims, male and female, have a hard time "getting back on the bike" if you will. or they go the other way and turn into "sluts."

i hate that word, though. it should be stricken from the language. it would save a lotta people a lotta grief.

 

nah. i think it shouldn't make either one of them a slut.

 

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I don't think this happens as much as defense attorneys would have us believe, but if it happens at all it definitely makes it much harder for real rape victims to get justice. I was a probation officer for 6 years, so I know all the crap defense attorneys pull when it comes to rape, and after the "nuts and sluts" defense the "crying wolf" defense is next in line. If I ever know a woman who does this she'll certainly hear about it from me.

 

This happened to a friend of mine. I started dating the girl who said it about him without even knowing... When I found out I completely stopped talking to her. She was devastated and I explained that I would not be going around with a lying harlot

 

looks like theres one potential liar in the midst

 

Please-please-please tell me you are not saying "She asked for it!"

There's a big difference between getting drunk and getting behind the wheel, and getting drunk and making it okay for some man to rape a woman. If I drink and drive I endanger others. If I kill someone, yes, I am legally and morally responsible, because I consented to commit a crime. But if I choose to drink with a man that's all I've done -- choose to drink with him. I have not committed a crime, so when does it proceed to consenting to be a victim? When do I give up my right to be respected and treated like a human being? Is there some chart on a wall somewhere that I can go to so I'll know what rules I'm breaking by my conduct? "Rule 42A:If a woman gets drunk with a man, he has the right to rape her, and it's her own fault for being so stupid as to drink with him. He doesn't have to control himself at all. It's her responsiblity to make sure she's in control of herself enough to fend him off." Why doesn't the man have the responsibility to control himself? And if he gets charged with rape, isn't he stupid for drinking with a woman and letting his dick go to his brain?

We live in a blame-the-victim society when it comes to rape. I worked in the legal system as a probation officer for 6 years, so this isn't just some feminist spouting off without experience. I saw the attitude from the inside, and the worst sexism came from women who believe the "She asked for it" shit. I hate that kind of behavior. I don't care what anyone says: Unless a woman comes up to a man and says, "Please rape me!" she did not ask for it. I don't give a damn how drunk she gets.

When will we stop putting the onus for men's behavior as decent human beings on women?

 

I hate women who lie about rape;
I also hate women he threaten to cry rape.

 

If a woman is so drunk that she can't say either yes or no, then its reasonable to expect a man to back off.

If a woman is not quite that drunk; She has the muscular coordination to say "Yes" (and does) but (on reflection after sobering up) realizes she should have said "No" and would have had she not been drunk. I can't see faulting the man for beliving her when she says "Yes".

Part of "No means No" is that "Yes means Yes". If she says "Cincinnati", it means she's too drunk.

 

Celticregress, did you even read my whole post?

I put into the post that I know real rape happens with chemical aid. But under current law, a woman can provide the intoxicants and initiate sex while both parties are equally gone, but if he says yes then he is the rapist. It really isn't fair. If he is drunk and she is sober while they have consensual then she isn't a rapist. So much for logic.

It's very difficult to tell whether or not a crime has happened without both parties signing legal contracts for one-night-stands beforehand, which they couldn't legally do while intoxicated anyway. I see why the law is in place: because the police can't tell and feel that it is better to err on the side of the woman. I just wish that there were a better way to keep trouble from occuring at all. The best I can do personally is not to get drunk or stoned without my husband on hand. I don't really mind if we have sex while I'm drunk, and have told him this.

If you get drunk and a man forces you or takes you while you're passed out, then you have been raped. If you get drunk and someone holds a gun to your head, telling you to drive, then you are not responsible for driving through the playground. If you get drunk and are physically conscious while driving, you are. If you get drunk and and climb on top of a man, I cannot call it rape. You got drunk and laid, that's all.

And crankyirishgirl, I have known impoverished single mothers who encouraged their girls to seduce older men, to the point of helping them lie about their ages. The men are usually also wheedled into buying the girl lots of clothes, taking her out to eat something other than ramen, and helping with bills. The point is to get pregnant, at which time he is given the choice of marriage with Mommy's legal consent or Mommy calling statutory. Personally, I think that the girl IS a rape victim here, but so is the man to an extent and the mother is guilty of child prostitution.

As for the parents who call it after allowing it for months, how is this not conspiracy to commit? I want to know.

 

Well, Canada's age of consent is 16.

Under 16, there is a 5 year exception gap.

So in Canada, the only way a guy can get called on statutory is if he's dating a girl under 16 and is more than 5 years older, which I think is the most fair statutory system, some European countries have the same deal.

Cause let's face it, a 20 year old guy should not be dating a 14 year old, or a 21 year old with a 15 year old.

The point of 16 is, she can drive lol, fair enough.

But men beyond 20 should not be dating girls in grade 10, or lower.

 

I like it.

 

women lie about everything. WHOREs.