To the Bush supporters.

All bush's information came from Clintons intelliegence, and Kerry agreed with Bush and so did Europe. So keep saying he lied because for some a lie is better than the truth. During viet nam I volunteered and joined the navy and would of served longer if I had not got caught on a 7,400 volt eletrical line. I support the troops and in a recent CNN news pole the active troops support Bush 80% while Kerry received 18%. They know who the leader is and they don't trust Kerry for good reason. The one's who did the diservice to the country are the one's who cut the intelliegence buget by 500 million dollars, which took place in the previous 8 years. When Bush came into office he tried to resolve that but he only had 16 weeks to undo the 8 years of incompetence.

 

These late term abortions count for about 1%, and are generally only done when the health of the mother is at stake.

 

Germany. Lets just pretend nothing is happening.[/QUOTE]
So you think that the coercive power of the state can compel a woman to deliver a baby, whether she wants to or not, and whether it might kill her. Late-term abortions are almost always done because of the health of the mother is at stake, or doctors have discovered a serious problem with the fetus that might preclude its viability (such as having a brain stem, but no brain).

The reason that three different Federal courts have found the so-called partial birth abortion ban unconstitutional is because it makes no allowance for the health and welfare for the mother.

By the way, what does the Bible say about judging others? How dare you refer to me as a butcher?

If you truly believe in God, then you should refrain from passing judgment--unless, of course you are thinking of running for the position.

 

Ron Fitzsimmons the executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers said Tusday that he lied in earlier statements when he said a controversial form of late-term abortion is rare and performed primarily to save the lives or fertility of woman bearing severely malformed babies. He now says the procedure is performed far more often than his colleagues have acknowledged, and on healthy woman bearing healthy fetuses. In an article in American Medical News, to be published March 3, and an interview Tusday, Fitzsimmons recalled the night in November 1995, when he appeared on "Nightline" on ABC and "lied through my teeth" when he said the procedure was used rarely and only on woman whose lives were in danger or whose fetuses were damaged. "It made me physically ill, " Fitzsimmons said in an interview. "I told my wife the next day, I can't do this again.

 

So you think that the coercive power of the state can compel a woman to deliver a baby, whether she wants to or not, and whether it might kill her. Late-term abortions are almost always done because of the health of the mother is at stake, or doctors have discovered a serious problem with the fetus that might preclude its viability (such as having a brain stem, but no brain).

The reason that three different Federal courts have found the so-called partial birth abortion ban unconstitutional is because it makes no allowance for the health and welfare for the mother.

By the way, what does the Bible say about judging others? How dare you refer to me as a butcher?

If you truly believe in God, then you should refrain from passing judgment--unless, of course you are thinking of running for the position.[/QUOTE]
Ron Fitzsimmons, the executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers said Tusday that he lied in earlier statements when he said a controversial form of late-term abortions is rare and performed primarily to save the lives or fertility of women bearing severely malformed babies. He now says the procedure is performed far more often than his colleagues have acknowledged, and on healthy women bearing healthy fetuses. So you still think Late term abortions are almost always done because of the health of the mother? This is Just another example of how they lie about this procedure.

 

So you think that the coercive power of the state can compel a woman to deliver a baby, whether she wants to or not, and whether it might kill her. Late-term abortions are almost always done because of the health of the mother is at stake, or doctors have discovered a serious problem with the fetus that might preclude its viability (such as having a brain stem, but no brain).

The reason that three different Federal courts have found the so-called partial birth abortion ban unconstitutional is because it makes no allowance for the health and welfare for the mother.

By the way, what does the Bible say about judging others? How dare you refer to me as a butcher?

If you truly believe in God, then you should refrain from passing judgment--unless, of course you are thinking of running for the position.[/QUOTE]
Ron Fitzsimmons, the executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers said Tusday that he lied in earlier statements when he said a controversial form of late-term abortion is rare and performed primarily to save the lives of ferility of women bearing severely malformed babies. He now says the procedure is performed far more often than his colleagues have acknowledged, and on healthy women bearing healthy fetuses.
Almost always done because of the health of the mother? Got any more lies you want to pass on. Yes I do believe in God, so much so that I actually understand why that verse was given, you apparently do not. Those who support this kind of law are violent people who believe life and death is there choice. When you stand before God you will find out otherwise.

 

You people don't see
The big picture
Disbelief is embedded in your minds
As a result, you're blind
You trust Farenheit 9/11
Yet you'd never give talk radio a chance
You'd be susceptible to the truth
But Heaven forbid non-liberal news

There is a war going on
And it's not with the flesh
The spirit realm is raging
Who will you let win?
Our sovereignty's long been lost
And we're headed nowhere fast
As we toss God out the window
And the principles for which He stands
Our souls yearn to fill that empty space
As we are made in His image
But we reject his grace
And His tears fall as a result
Don't you know he just wants to be with you?

But instead we support leaders
Who promote killing sacred life
And we change marriage
When it should remain as man and wife
And here we are...
Waiting for something to give
What a sad situation
Is the world which we live

 

The poem I like. Great post.

 

why thank you

 

Idiocy has no political label
No name
John Kerry and George Bush are like Coke and Pepsi
Essentially the same product with a different corporate logo and a slightly different taste
Two empty suits with empty hearts, talking to us like we're children
The idiots eat it up like their 3 O'clock McDonalds' lunch, bloating themselves on the poison of misinformation, lies, phony smiles and phony hair

These people are buying into the grand scheme
A bipartisan scheme
They don't even know it
Their minds have been poisoned from too much CNN and Fox News
Too much American Idiol
Too much MTV
Too much glitter
Too much self-absorbtion
Too much material and too many price tags
Too much work and not enough living - not enough learning

I am sorry but you are indeed all diseased
George Carlin was right
You are slaves and you don't even know it
You call yourselves Democrats and Republicans
I call you fools
Your ignorance sickens me

 

I don't know why everyone isassociating god and jesus with bush or even the USA, I find it offensive and sadening. I pray everyday and I know you'll all be forgivin for your mistake.

 

Bush?

Pink Floyd?

In the same sentence...I am speechless.

 

How so?

 

I suppose I am wondering what George W. would have to say about the lifestyles of many of the people who listen to Pink Floyd.

With this administration's support for precluding people from receiving government-subsidized housing and Pell Grants to pay for a college education if those people have drug convictions, I just couldn't imagine Bush and Floyd in the same sentence.

 

I'm hoping he's lying to get the corporate funding he's gotten so far. Had he taken a pure anti-war stance, I'm sad to say, he would have NO chance whatsoever

Not true, look at all the attention Howard Dean got, sure he wasn't great, but he had the balls to come out and say Bush was a liar and that the war was wrong, and had the ability to make enough money off people without kissing ass to the corporations.

I'm hoping he will examine the whole situation carefully and pull out the troops. The Bush lies we know about are just the tip of the iceberg, and when Kerry has unfettered access to all intelligence, we may well see him quickly move towards a withdrawal.

I highly doubt that, Kerry has just as much to gain as Bush by keeping that war going.

At worst, he couldn't POSSIBLY be as bad as a lame-duck Dubya, of that I'm completely confident

i'll give ya that....

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

I got these in an e-mail. Please feel free to check these for truth. I looked a few up, and they were accurate, so I'm assuming the rest are as well.

Alabama 1901, Preamble. We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the
following Constitution .

Alaska 1956, Preamble. We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land .

Arizona 1911, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...

Arkansas 1874, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form
of government...

California 1879, Preamble. We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom

Colorado 1876, Preamble. We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe.

Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy ...

Delaware 1897, Preamble. Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to
the dictates of their consciences ...

Florida 1885, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty . establish this Constitution...

Georgia 1777, Preamble. We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...





Hawaii 1959, Preamble. We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance ... establish this Constitution.

Idaho 1889, Preamble. We, the people of t! he State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings ...

Illinois 1870, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

Indiana 1851, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to chose our
form of government.

Iowa 1857, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our
dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings . establish
this Constitution

Kansas 1859, Preamble. We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges . establish this Constitution.




Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth of grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties...

Louisiana 1921, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.

Maine 1820, Preamble. We the People of Maine .. acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in
affording us an opportunity ... and imploring His aid and direction.

Maryland 1776, Preamble. We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God or our civil and religious liberty...




Massachusetts 1780, Preamble. We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator
of the Universe .. in the course of His Providence, an opportunity
..and devoutly imploring His direction ...

Michigan 1908, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom ... establish this Constitution

Minnesota 1857, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings.

Mississippi 1890, Preamble. We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.

Missouri 1845, Preamble. We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for
His goodness ... establish this Constitution




Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty. establish this Constitution

Nebraska 1875, Preamble. We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom .. establish this Constitution

Nevada 1864, Preamble. We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom establish this Constitution...

New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V. Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.

New Jersey 1844, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He
hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors .

New Mexico 1911, Preamble. We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty

New York 1846, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.

North Carolina 1868, Preamble. We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for
our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging
our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those

North Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of North Dakota,
grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

Ohio 1852, Preamble. We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common ..

Oklahoma 1907, Preamble. Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty .. establish this ...

Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences..

Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble. We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful
to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance.

Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing

South Carolina, 1778, Preamble. We, the people of he State of South Carolina, grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

South Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil! and religious liberties ... establish this

Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...

Texas 1845, Preamble. We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.

Utah 1896, Preamble. Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution .

Vermont 1777, Preamble. Whereas all government ought to ... enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other
blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man...




Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI ... Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator ... can be directed only by Reason ... and that it is
the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and
Charity towards each other ...

Washington 1889, Preamble. We the People of the State of Washington, grateful! to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do
ordain this Constitution ...

West Virginia 1872, Preamble. Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia .. reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God...

Wisconsin 1848, Preamble. We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility ...

Wyoming 1890, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties . establish this Constitution...


After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions,
one is faced with the prospect that maybe, just maybe, the ACLU and
the out-of-control federal courts are wrong!

"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants."
William Penn




If you found this to be "Food for thought.." send to as many that
you think will be touched by it also.



GOD BLESS AMERICA! ​

 

Again, these are from an e-mail. Feel free to check for accuracy. I think the pictures speak for themselves, though.

DID YOU KNOW?



Did You Know?

As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S. Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view ... it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!





DID YOU KNOW?

As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.



DID YOU KNOW?

As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall,
right above where the Supreme Court judges sit,
a display of the Ten Commandments!



DID YOU KNOW?



There are Bible verses etched in stone all over
the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington, D.C.

DID YOU KNOW?

James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our Constitution" made the following statement:

"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."


DID YOU KNOW?



Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said:

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ".


DID YOU KNOW?

Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.


DID YOU KNOW?



Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.


DID YOU KNOW?

Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law ...an oligarchy ...
the rule of few over many.


DID YOU KNOW?
The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said:


"Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers."


How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything
we have done for 220 years in this country is now
suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?

Please forward this to everyone you can. Lets put it around the world
and let the world see and remember what this great country was built on.

Thank you!!



Chamber, US House of Representatives

 

"Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers."

This is true, but Bush only says he's christian, his actions prove otherwise. Theres no doubt that christian claims are made, but there is a big difference between a real christian and one who thinks that they are.

 

Can I just add a post which was written by Astaroth on another thread.. I think it sums up why so many non americans have such a problem with the percieved attitude of americans! This blew me away!

Excuse me!! Since when does the US need the United Nations to legitimize its actions, ESPECIALLY when the US is defending itself?


The United Nations is a collection of pygmys and third-world countries that, at the very least, hate us and want our stuff. Are you aware that Russia, Germany and France received kickbacks from Saddam when he was raping the "oil for food" program just to keep quiet? Where was that i... mpotent organization when Saddam thumbed his nose at their "resolutions"?

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Illegal war? That's the pot calling the kettle black. The UN a corrupt organization which is our enemy, and it has NO SAY WHATSOEVER in what the United States does to protect itself.

As far as Christianity goes. This country was founded by Christians and on Christian principles. The Constitution itself is written for God-fearing people. Without a set of core morals, freedom has no meaning. There is nothing wrong with a President affirming his faith in public.

And as far as the "Muslim hate" goes. I do not hate the Muslims. Not all Muslims are terrorists. But thus far, all terrorists we've met since 9/11 have been Muslim. WHERE is the Muslim community? Why do we not hear a clamor of voices denouncing the terrorist atrocities? That, my friends, is called "guilt by association."

Think about that next time you lash out against Bush.
__________________
"An open mind is like a fortress with walls unguarded and gates unbarred."

I support President Bush and strengthening of the Patriot Act.
If you'd rather see dead terrorists than dead Americans, then you should too.


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I cant believe attitudes like this still exist!!!!

 

"As far as Christianity goes. This country was founded by Christians and on Christian principles. The Constitution itself is written for God-fearing people. Without a set of core morals, freedom has no meaning. There is nothing wrong with a President affirming his faith in public."

Just after they slaughtered millions of native americans to be able to do so.