On NYE I went to a rave in downtown LA to see armin. I got a ton of mollie from a friend up in the bay area before I came down and planned on using it at the rave. I ended up swallowing about 2 1/2 capsules and snorting another 2 and I also took a regular bean (yellow hoosier) that I've had before that was really strong but NONE of them hit me. I would feel the slightest sensation of a body high beginning to start and then it would just fade, I never peaked once. I've rolled probably about 25 times over the last two years but I hadn't taken any E for about 8 weeks before the rave. Does anyone have any idea why this might've happened? I know i had good shit because all my friends were off the same stuff and rolling BALLS. I still have some left over and I was hoping to roll again soon since my big disappointment. Has anyone had this happen before/how did you fix it?
fuck I know. i took 4 really nice mollies on halloween and i was fuuuuccckeedd up. i've only taken one other pill since but yea, definitely very weird. I took a bunch of 5htp during the day leading up to the rave, i'm wondering if it somehow affected the roll.
^i dont think so erowid had this to say about 5-htp and xtc combinations "It is converted to serotonin in the body. Many people believe that since MDMA works in large part by causing a massive release of serotonin, that taking 5-HTP before or with the MDMA will improve the high by creating more serotonin to be released. This is often called "pre-loading." Unfortunately, it doesn't work the way people think, and most of the results people report from 5-HTP pre-loading are simply placebo. The conversion process takes several hours from the time you take it, and the way most people pre-load with it, the 5-HTP will not turn into serotonin until after the MDMA experience is well over. Also, taking it just once will not produce huge ammounts of serotonin, probably not enough to have much effect on MDMA. If you wish to raise serotonin levels before using MDMA, you should take the 5-HTP every day for several days before using MDMA, in doses of around 100mg per day. Whether this has any noticable effect on the MDMA experience or not is questionable." so it seems like if anything, it would make the x stronger. right now i would recommend just trying again and seeing if the same thing happens, it may have just been a one time fluke... this may be that "loss of magic" some users report but it doesnt seem like that should happen without weekly dosing or more common than that even
yea that's what i've been wondering. Even if there was a loss of magic, you'd think after 5 or 6 pure hits i'd be able to achieve some sort of desired effect, but i barely felt anything, no euphoria and a very very mild body high. my pupils got big as fuck though.
I took three hits of molly on NYE. Swallowed one capsule, felt nothing after an hour, dumped another into my mouth, little to nothing after an hour, snorted one; barely anything, no peak... Then I took a Louie Vaton double stack I was rolling face but the molly did nothing for me until I blew one and even that was marginal. I'm going to another rave on the 17th with 3 hits of Louie. I've had better success with rolls than Molly.
I've had this happen to me a lot only because I'm a frequent Molly user. So there's a lot of cross tolerance of course...if you rolled even three days before you took all that there's still a chance you won't roll. It's happened to me many a times. It sucks but all you can do is take a week break from it so you can get the full experience back. I'm not sure if you're heavy user or what but that's my two cents.
oh yeah take some 5-HTP for a week leading up to when you're going to have your next roll as well as after (as st stephen said). It helps replenish your serotonin and generally helps your mood. I know mine needs it...
i'm a relatively frequent user but I wouldn't consider myself a heavy user. Like i said, I hadn't rolled in about 8 weeks prior to nye, and the only mdma i had taken was the tiny specks on my fingers i tasted to make sure it was mollie when i was capsuling it up. I also pre-loaded with about 500-600mg of 5htp the day of the rave. we're havin a rollin party at my place over the weekend, I'm thinkin about pluggin two mollies. what are people's thoughts about this process? Any tips for making it go smoother? I've never done it but i figured i'd give it a shot, I've heard its the way to go.