How will the Obama administration handle the illegal alien problem?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by HawaiianEye, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    For 4 years all summer long. We can't pick anything in the winter in Canada, so I didn't do it straight. Just for a few months in the summer. I grew up in a rural area and worked my first summer job when I was 13 going into high school, and then for the next 4 years.

    I hoed beans, de-rogued corn, picked corn (omg the bushels are heavy), and de-tasseled seed corn. I spent my summers in the dirt with blisters on my hands and pesticides in my nose.

    That's how I put money into my education fund.
     
  2. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    The word is "naturalization."
     
  3. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Awesome.

    It sounds awkward to say "I'm in favour of naturalizing immigrants", almost as if I'm in favour of lobotomizing them or something. Making them more "natural" citizens. Hee hee.

    Anyway, thanks!!
     
  4. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    It is kind of weird to call myself an "unatural":eek:

    No prob. :)
     
  5. hannahannahannah

    hannahannahannah What's a Palindrome?

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    Why the need to justify to anyone, that anyone else here has done hard labor at some point in their life and to what degree?

    And yes, I've cleaned walls, greasy kitchen grates and toilets for the more well off. It wasn't fun work, but it paid the bills at the time.

    True Factoid: Did you know that some people don't even have the decency to clean their own skid marks off the toilet before you come in? :eek:

    I have no idea how Obama is going to handle this issue. It all remains to be seen.
     
  6. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Still wasn't 110 degree weather :D

    Good job though, I bet the work was very satisfying, even though hard. At least that's how I feel.

    Yet you still cannot compare yourselves to these people. You've had a roof over your head, you were fed...

    You were simply saving up for an education.

    These people have to work, in order to feed their families. There is a big difference.

    Plus, no one works a young highschool girl to death. You didn't get any lifelong back injuries out of it, did ya?
     
  7. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Who said I was comparing myself to these people?

    I have never done that. We're on the same side of this issue, Pavel.

    These people are worse off because they remain unrepresented, with no rights, and often their wages are withheld from them and they suffer many problems because of the way they are mistreated by their employers. Part of an initiative that I was involved in was to create safer working conditions for migrant workers. My parish priest became involved being a Spanish speaker and Latin American activist and we kick-started a local movement to ensure proper housing in my hometown, and a stronger program for these people and provided legal representation for them on their behalf.

    Solidarity my brother. It helped me to go through some of the conditions and work involved with the people and we got organized.

    And I was worked to the bone during my job. My friends and I had some moments of tears and utter pain. I was physically assaulted by a co-worker as my supervisor stood by and watched.

    I wadded through water up to my knees in a field during a thunderstorm with funnel clouds.

    My neighbour used to pick tobacco and the local farmer refused to give her any of her paycheques. He would only give her paycheques to her husband. Shit like that happens everywhere, no matter who you are. The struggle continues.
     
  8. HawaiianEye

    HawaiianEye Member

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    In the 1950s President Eisenhower deported millions of illegal immigrants.So anyone who says it cannot be done is wrong .--I still have not heard Obama and Co. address this problem.I was just watching C-Span the only reasonably unbiased newssource in the US nowadays. They allow viewers to call in.Almost ALL the viewers that called want illegals OUT of the US.---Do Obama+Co. want to be as bad as Bush/Cheney and cater to big business special interests,lobbyists and the wealthy?Because those are the ONLY groups that want illegals to stay in the US.
     
  9. HawaiianEye

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    ^^^^Not good news. Amnesty for illegals will do to America what the iceberg did to the Titanic.---No other government in any countries of the free democratic world would even attempt to do something like that.And if they did they would have riots in the streets.----France is a great example of this.When French citizens don't like something their government is trying to push,they protest in a civil but very effective way.
     
  10. HawaiianEye

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    My last post on this thread.This may sound a little off the wall,perhaps naive,but I would love if Hawaii somehow could withdraw its statehood(no longer be part of the United States).I don't want this beautiful set of islands anymore to be a part of a country that has for the past number of years adopted such rediculous policies and a country full of people that forgot how to hold their government accountable.America sure isn't what she used to be.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    She hasn't been since Reagan when he introduced the concept that the only thing that mattered was corporate wealth. He sold the public his trickle down theory and they bought it.
     
  12. HawaiianEye

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    It's funny I liked Reagan as a person,I think he made some good movies,very charismatic and so on,but yeah he started politics by and for the rich,and it's slowly snowballed into the disaster current day America is in and has been in for some time now.---.And again besides a few radical groups,it's the very wealthy and big businesses that want illegals in the US.If they continue to have their way ,they also would re-introduce sweatshops with children working 60 hours a week,as was common in the early 1900s.
     
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