Do you think the U.S. will lose control of Central America?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by zihger, Dec 23, 2008.

  1. zihger

    zihger Senior Member

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  2. zihger

    zihger Senior Member

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    Hmmm. No students of Central American Politics?

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    Socialist takeovers

    CIA backed overthrows

    Shadow armies

    Cocaine dynasties

    SOA school of the Americas



    Well I'll let you guys get back to the powder puff puppet shows staring *Ooobamaaa… with special guests Hiiilllary Clintonnn….*
     
  3. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    did we ever REALLY have control? i mean, honestly?
     
  4. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Since the downfall of the Soviet Union, the US has been able to roam the world at will, imposing it's will. Or at least attempting to. Central America has been in the thick of it.

    This happens over such a stretch of years, US dominance almost begins to look normal. And THAT is the danger.

    I welcome this equalization. Better to loose a little pressure now than try to contain an explosion later.

    Besides, many old cold warriors want to get in that last knee to the groin before they pass. A new rumble with Russia Ver. 2 versus America 1.0 is just their ticket.

    The odds are more equal than they seem.



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  5. zihger

    zihger Senior Member

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    I do think the U.S. has a fairly good grip on Central America not all of it but the majority of it.

    Guatemala, Honduras are had by the U.S military and U.S. corporations/shadow armies.

    Nicaragua no.
    El Salvador for now but like that article was saying they are leaning left wing, same with Nicaragua.
    That’s some important military real estate more then the U.S has lost for a long time.

    But it takes $ to own 3rd world countries does Russia and Cuba have enough to fund more left wing armies?

    Personally I think Nicaragua and El Salvador are unstable as fuck and nothing will surprise me.

    I agree I think the odds in Central America are getting very equal now days.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Aren't they independent countries? Why should any other power control them?
     
  7. zihger

    zihger Senior Member

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    Because ever since Cortez came on the scene the have been ruled by other countries now they don’t know how to rule themselves.

    Not to mention natural resources and commercial profits that they don’t know how to manage along with military strategic locations.
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    They don't know how to manage their natural resources? Or is it that wealthy globalists could make themselves rich off exploiting them. And aren't those locations strategic for their own citizens.

    They don't know how to rule themselves? I find it hard to believe the US knows how to rule itself. China owns more of our financial assets then US citizens do. Israel leads us into one expensive military campaign after another. Little seems to be done in the interests of the citizens of this country.

    Commercial profits?
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    A word of wisdom to the Central Americas. Take control of your own countries, look after your own interests!

    Protect your water rights. Water next to oil is the next market expansion.
     
  10. zihger

    zihger Senior Member

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    I think mostly strategic.

    Everyone can do without the bananas.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I can't do without bananas. They are high in potassium. I can do without war.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am willing to pay a fair price for a good banana, but I not willing to spend another dollar on war or the control over another country.
     
  13. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    im surprised no one has mentioned china and the panama canal..

    there,its been mentioned...:rolleyes:
     
  14. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    your going to have to learn to live without the banana you know and love,it will soon be extinct..

    i here there are many more varieties,they just dont transport as well so they will be virtually non existent except where they can be grown locally..
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Sorry no I will not live without my bananas. And as an horitculturist I know that's a false proclamation.

    As to the Panama Canal, that's the stupidist move the US ever made. China now owns the Canal. American lives were lost to build it, taxpayer dollars were sunk into it and now China controls it. Who doesn't know how to rule themselves? The Central Americans should learn a valuable lesson.
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The Panama Canal is like analog tv air waves. Someone made a lot of money off it, but it wasn't the average American citizen.
     
  17. zihger

    zihger Senior Member

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    The loss of the cannel is very bad and stupid..

    Seriously how much would of it of taken to keep it?
    We have spent how many billions in the Middle East a fraction of that would of had a new agreement on the cannel. Very stupid.
     
  18. zihger

    zihger Senior Member

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    It probably wasn't Panama eather.
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am sure the citizens of Panama weren't winners with the turnover.
     
  20. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    from what i gather panama is doing very well for itself and is considered one of the top retirement countries in the world..
     
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