Why is socialism a bad thing?

The rich people in the u.s have been sucking the country dry while the average american has been taking the tax burden. We don't even get basic stuff like access to free healthcare and a descent free education.

Bit odd why most people can't even appreciate socialism for what it is. Sigh...

 

Socialism sounds nice in books but in real life it is a flawed idea that has never worked.

 

You sound like the kind of person who believes everything they think is infallible. Well it's not. We don't declare war on Muslim countries just because of how they treat women and homosexuals, we try to convince them the error of their ways because they could be right to do so and we may need to learn from them in the future.

This is called religious and cultural tolerance. You don't have to accept Islam or Capitalism, but if we can just tolerate each other we can all get along and demagogues, such as yourself, can't use our differences to turn us against each other.

 

because we're capitalists damn it.

 

Kinda like it doesn't work for Sweden.Please.

 

Socialism is a step on the road to Communism. It is the stage where the people must be "educated" on the proper way to live and share. And it's normally done by a totalitarian government. The USSR never achieved Communism because they stalled in Socialism. Why? Because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Party wasn't ever going to relinquish its power and why should it? Much like organized religion (pay attention, Christians, Muslims and Jews!), organized Marxism is a wonderful way for a few chosen people to control a great number of people and in the process those chosen few will lose site of the goal.

Now individual Socialism, there's the ticket. You have no glamour, no bling, no toys, and you give your surpluses to those less fortunate. What a wonderful world it would be if more people did that voluntarily.

Lead by example.

 

the rich suck the country dry? i dont understand that.

i think there are plenty of reasons to avoid socialism.

 

Come the day when we can't use money, I'm hoping my bling will buy some rice and water. I won't deny myelf bling. And it's not all for show.

 

Kind of like it doesn’t work in Cuba, China, North Korea, the USSR, along with the many attempts in parts of Africa and parts of Latin and Central America.

 

When we reach the point where you need rice and water your bling will be worthless. Might I suggest you stock up on rice and dried beans now, while you still can?

 

democratic socialism would work and in it there would be no corrupt politicians. may i add that i believe Sweeden, who is controlled by the democratic socialist party, has the highest quality of life in the world. now tell me socialism doesnt work.... i dont really know the logistics or anything, but the main idea seems to be grand. at least a HELL of a lot better than capitalism. where homeless are forced to sleep on the streets while thousands of office buildings, stores and buildings go empty. now say that capitalism is effective...blech

 

Socialism is the antithesis to capitalism in the Hegelian Dialectic. The same people who administer capitalism also funded communism/socialism into existence as a FALSE OPPOSITION. As a matter of fact, the so-called "wealthy elite" at the top HATE capitalism because they hate competition. They want full control in their hands, and socialism is the best tool they have to consolidate wealth (read: power) via the state which they also control. Socialism is a ruse designed to rob the independent wealth from the people and hand that wealth over to the state and its controllers, who then determine how the money should be spent, which is usually to build up an infrastructure where the public can be more easily controlled. The elite LOVE the socialist welfare state in which THEY created because that means more people are under their control and at their mercy.

The US is a socialist nation. Not a socialist utopia the bleeding hearts and liberals can identify with, but that's because socialism at the top is far different than the propaganda the public is expected to believe to get them to accept more control in the hands of fewer people. That version of socialism does not exist, cannot exist, nor will ever exist and long as humans make the rules.

Socialism is a big CON game because, like capitalism, which is also a CON, it centers around banking and money. If you understand how money and the banking system works, there is no way you can support socialism as it feeds right into the controllers' hands.

Socialism presents itself to the brainwashed masses as equality and prosperity for all, but throughout history it has only lead to the impoverishment and enslavement of all who have bought into its utopian lie. We are heading down that road in the West, except most people do not see it for what it is.

 

The average income in the US is actually higher then in Sweden, the problem is the difference between wealthy and poor in the US is much greater, but at least you have a bigger chance of becoming wealthy in the US, at the same time a bigger chance to be on the streets. But Sweden is not as socialist as people think, they made a great deal of their state owned enterprises private in the the 1980's early 90's in an effort to boost a failing economy

And actually following the Swedish general election in 2006, the social democrats had their worst showing since universal sufferage was introduced in 1921 and is now led by a center-right government

 

Socialism isn't actually bad. People against Socialism always use the same argument:

"Socialism doesn't work and never has".

To begin, socialism has never been successfully implemented as it was designed. Marx saw socialism as the natural system to follow capitalism. Socialism was supposed to have been implemented in post-industrialized nations, like Britain or the US. This was so that technology could be used for the good of all and to raise everyone's standard of living. This makes sense, if we have better, more efficient technology working for us we should all be doing less work, right? But the worker's situation hasn't improved. Hours are still long and wages still low.

Back to the point, If you look at the examples of it "failing" you see it being tried in third-world, mainly agricultural countries. Russia, China, and Cuba were not even close to being "post-industrial". But what does "fail" actually mean? Most people look at the fall of the Soviet Union as proof that Capitalism is a superior system, but that's bullshit. The main reason for the USSR's demise is that it used the people's labor to try and gain superpower status, making tanks and nukes, instead of producing products to increase the standard of living for its citizens. A socialist country can't compete with capitalism in terms of pure productivity, but it's not supposed to.

I was going to type more but I'll just see how this goes over.

edit- I guess I should mention that my reason for considering socialism is that Capitalism sucks in every way, and Anarchy is a wet dream. So I'm left with old Red. It's like the only option I can see.

 

Then you haven't done your homework, Pole. Time to read up.

Karl Marx was a sick deviant and fraud employed by the Rothschilds to be the official face of communism. His name wasn't added to the Manifesto until long after it had been written, and it was merely a rehash of what Adam Weishaupt proposed the century before. Karl Marx was a high-ranking Freemason of the Grand Orient lodge and was well connected with the power brokers of his time. That is why you are even aware of his name and why his garbage is still promoted today. Trust me, if Marx's trash posed a legitimate threat to the status quo, you wouldn't be hearing about him today. Instead, he is the idol of every brainwashed, bleeding heart liberal across this planet.

Everything I said above is all laid out in the scholarly works of professor Antony Sutton.

Look at the Communist Manifesto and then look at how much of what was proposed within has since become a reality in today's supposedly "capitalist" society.

 

In other words, you cannot think OUTSIDE the box, but rather only within the confines provided to you.

Why?

Just because capitalism is bad and completely inhuman (and it is), doesn't mean socialism and communism are any better. They are far worse.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtEP3ROE4zw

 

If individuals showed reasonable concern and compassion for others voluntarily, instead of focussing on accumulating wealth and power for themselves alone the world would be a better place. That's my Holiday message.

 

Yeah I said that yesterday without the warm fuzzies.

Happy Holidays, gardener.

 

I knew someone had, but I didn't want to open the first page again. I am still on dialup. Kudos Zoomie I think your message was warm and fuzzy enough. Made perfect sense to me.