complete novice.

no itching. No negative effects at all so far. I took them at 5:40.

And maybe it wasn't a faster heartbeat, but it was a stronger heartbeat. I don't know how to explain it.

 

i get what your saying, when i take oxy my pulse is really strong but deffinetly slower, and my breaths are shorter and slower, to me just sounds like you had a pretty small dose

 

yeah, same.

I smoked everyday for over a year and a half, then one day I stopped getting high and started freaking out. Terrible anxiety attacks. At first I refused to accept it and kept smoking for almost a month and got a panic attack every single time. It was miserable and I no longer smoke.

and OP, why are you bothering with a CWE?

 

Like the last guy said, a cold water extraction is NOT worth it for a couple of pills. Just eat them. CWE is only worth it if you plan on eating like more than 8 or 10 of those 5/500 vicodins.

And yes, 3 hours is about how long it lasted my first time as well.

 

Like kil0 said, there is no CWE necessary. You will definitely feel more nauseous with 25-30mg, just remember that. It shouldn't make you throw up or anything, though. My friend fuckin' took 50mg once before work (LOL) and he threw up when he got back home

And btw I know exactly what you mean with the "stronger" heartbeat. I believe that is normal.

:cheers2:

 

taking with some vyvanse i take for my ADD. i'm going to take twice as much vyvanse as i usually do, along with 30mg of hydrocodone. i won't do a CWE as you suggested.

i usually take 70mg of vyvanse a day, i'm taking 140mg today. at 70mg i already feel slight euphoria, and lots of energy, and just great allround. at 140mg it's complete euphoria. i read online that they don't counteract. i've been too afraid to try 210mg, because i read about some pretty sick side effects.

cheers everyone:cheers2:

 

i first suggested it because i wanted to take it all at once, and i am not too fond of APAP. (any over the counter painkillers suck ass IMO)

 

don't worry about the CWE, there's not really enough apap to make it worth the effort and the lost product, and heres hoping you get that truly beautiful enjoyable experience you wish for

 

i'm a fucking dumbass.. plain an simple... flat out dumbfuck. period.

6:40/7:00AM : take three vyvanse. i have done this before without any problems.

7:30 : leave for school

8:00 : at school, i go to the bathroom and take 6 pills. overall 30mg of hydrocodone and 3000 mg of APAP. i had cut the pills in halves.

8:30 : first class of the day, art, my favorite class. i already feel the effects. i am very miticulous because of the vyvanse, i feel slightly numb and whatnot.

9:00 : peak. this is rediculous. i'm experiencing complete euphoria, energy, and joy, completely. i ask my good buddy, he thought i had been crying or something, he said i looked very tense in my upper body while walking down the hall, even though i felt the opposite. he said my eyes were very far open, and my pupils were pinpricks. my body is very hot too the touch.

9:30 : i thought i peaked but i was wrong. this is amazing.. i am still getting all my work done easily in class and can focus better, i have no distractions. i am slightly funnier than normal (idk how that's possible) and people say i am more relaxed and in a better mood. my heartbeat is very strong and fast. i am completely numb. no downsides yet.

10:00 : i'm on the downside for the painkillers, but the vyvanse is still getting stronger. it will for the next 30 minutes or so. My friend says my eyes are still bad, but not noticable.

11:00 : my eyes are back to normal, i still feel the painkillers about 25%. vyvanse is great. i am generally happy and fun for the rest of the day, i'll update you.

3:00 PM : i'm going to the carline, nothing much has changed since 11:00. when i get in the car the feeling just stops. flat out. on the way home i am very hot, sweaty, in a bad mood. i figured i'm just crashing, no bigge.

3:30 : i'm about to get out of the car, my stomache is unnerving, i jump out before the car starts and threw my guts out... all i had to eat today was a hot chocolate and a few bottles of water... all out. i feel great after everything is gone... i still feel the vyvanse working pretty strong, and i go to my grandparents next door and rape my homework assignments. i still have some left though....

6:00 : still a little bit of stomache issues.. i've been too afraid to eat anything, but i drank a coke and it seemed to settle my stomache a little bit...





yea.... overall here are some points i left out.
- all day i was comfortably numb and warm
- i sweat a tiny bit... i usually don't at all unless doing somethign active.
- i could read people very easily
- my sight was altered, colors were vivid and i didn't have much depth.
- i could still easily work, maybe better than normal
- people thought i had been crying, until they hung out with me in a class.
- i was very kind to people, i am usually irrated easily.
- i loved the world and all parts...
- even more artistic than usual.
- very easy to remember things i thought i had forgotten (ie: test q's, i think i aced it)


tonight i imagine i won't get much sleep from the vyvanse (it's lisdexamphetamine, i took 3x as much as usual)


please flame me somone for being such a complete and udder dumbshit.

this experience hasn't chased me away from opiates, i still love them so far. but i'm definately going to straightedge it for atleast 2 weeks or more... not even weed. overall i think this experience evened out for me... i still feel kinda shitty.... don't you throw up when you need something out of your system? all i saw was water and hotchoc. lol

 

ok well sounds like a amazing time, all the euphoria would be comming from the hydro, as well as the pinned pupils and some of the nausea, the pounding heart and crash would be comming from ur meds which are a form of speed, you basicly did a kiddy speedball, now you should feel how each feels on their own

 

i tried opiates for my first time today. i had 5/325mg percs. i took 5 of them. i took them after school cause me and my friends were about to smoke but plans got fucked up. i didnt really feel the pills hit me until about an hour later. i had a nice little high for about 30mins then i was nauseous as fuck. idk if i wanna do them anymore. idk if i didnt take enough or many to many which causes the nausea. im 190lbs 6 feet.

 

^ That sucks hard. 25mg of oxycodone gets me high as absolute fuck for 4 hours. It's utter bliss.

And lol the OP mixed d-amphetamine and hydrocodone and said they had no interactions. Of course stimulants and opiates aren't bad to mix together at all.

Low doses are good. High doses of both can be dangerous. Vyvanse. Fuck that shit get Dexedrine. lol.

Anyone know the conversion ratio for lisdexamphetamine -> d-amphetamine in vivo?


Anyway that sounds like a nice day. I've yet to mix the two but I can imagine it would be quite amazing.

 

haha, I don't know what you think you should be flamed for. Having an intense experience at school?

I did plenty of stuff like that in high school, don't beat yourself up.

 

mmmh... looking back it was definately worth it.. i definately over reacted. lol i only felt bad for about an hour... compared to a whole day of bliss? worth it.


what i said when they didn't effect eachother, i mean that they didn't have counteracting parts, so no health issues...


and when i said somone flame me, that was for my benefit so i would be made a fool :cheers2:


mmmh that was an incredible day... after my eyes no longer were open really wide, and my pupils were no longer pinpricks, my eyes were very glazed....

and i have experienced both by themselves.. i rarely do above what i was precribed for vyvanse, because i love sleep, and alone it's not all that great, because of the crash. i take 70mg a day, but i'm gonna have to cutback for the next week to catch up, i took 210mg today. lol.


weird, the crash for lisdexamfetamine in small doses puts me in a bad mood and just a little tense... the crash from high doses just makes me feel a little off, but in a great mood...


heheh i like that 'kiddie speedball"

i think i pretty much did not make below a 99 on any paper i completed today... i raped them all with ease in like 5 minutes, and then proceeded to screw around and talk and whatnot.. if it was an important paper i would spend like the entire class working for the smallest of errors in handwriting...

 

mm. One major side effect that really didn't bother me until after my last post was strenous breathing. It was labored, and I often 'forgot' to breath back in. At first I thought it had something to do with bloodpressure, because it happened after I got in the hot tub for about an hour and then took a shower. I almost passed out when I jumped out of the hot tub. Then I read up on a few side effects really quick, just glancing at them. Respiratory depression? Is that labored breathing?

only reason why it wasn't like a mini speedball is that the stimulant is supposed to be the first effect, wearing off leavingyou with the downer.
What I did today the stimulant was time releasing, so... A backwards minispeedball... Haha

 

I had an Adderal precription before I started recreationally dosing. Taking just my reccomended ammount made me feel like shit. I hated it. I liked vyvanse way better, and had hardly any side effects at all.

And also, lisdexamfetamine is the same thing as Adderal, except before it starts working it must be hydrolyzed in the digestive track. Surefire way too keep recreational users from getting IR

 

I bet you can blame almost all the crash on your meds. Those uppers make me crash worse than coke... seriously ritalin totally fucks with my head and I'm through with that stuff. You shouldn't have taken such a risk with two high doses, man! Don't speedball, just do the opiates.

 

Adderall is roughly 75% dextro-amphetamine (the FUN isomer) and 25% levo-amphetamine (the lame isomer so to speak, lol) in 4 different time releasing salts.

Dexedrine is just d-amphetamine. Snorting it provides quite a nice rush and the high is amazing.

Vyvanse is Lisdexamfetamine which is just d-amphetamine with l-lysine attached to it, making it inactive until the l-lysine is chopped off by liver enzymes. Then it becomes d-amphetamine in vivo. Vyvanse is the new Dexedrine. It's a far lamer version, but less 'abuseable'.

 

I know it was really stupid.

But still, it was quite the experience. I am not going to fuck with any stimulants for a loooooonnnngggg time. I prefer chilling. Won't have any psychoactives at all until next weekend when I smoke a few jays with my buddies, they have been looking forward to seeing me and bought like 10 grams for that weekend. I am also taking a break from opiates aswell.... I am through the 20 pills. Hahaha. Once idecide to mess around with them again it is going to be oxycodone. In an extremely small dose.

 

ya I used to mess around with coke and I fully agree on stimulants not being that fun, all i ever got was tweaky and fiending ops on the other hand....