Smokable puddy from pods

So, we've all seen the threads about poppy pods, poppy tea, and poppy putty. From personal experience, a basic cold water extraction followed by filtration through cloth will render an almost un-smokable product. You can get effects, but it takes quite a bit of smoking, and then its still very mild.

I know from drinking the tea that there is still a lot of particles of pod matter floating around, but cloth wont catch it. I believe the less useless stuff in the putty, the more potent the smoke will be, right? My friends idea was to use coffee filters after I filter through the cloth, which could very well work. This link had a pretty involved process, which did not work the way it was supposed to, for me at least- ice tek If anyone else has used it, Id like to hear what you did, exactly.

Since this isnt a very common procedure, I dont expect many people to have first hand experience with pods and putty. Im just looking for peoples advice, ideas and conjecture on how to most efficiently purify my opium. Right now, my process is as follows:

1. Crush pods as finely as possible, then soak in water for 30-45 minutes.

2. Filter through cheesecloth into large jar.

3. Repeat process two more times, keeping the last batch for tea.

4. Pour liquid through one or two coffee filters into another jar or bowl.

5. use a heat lamp to slowly evaporate water, being careful not to burn putty.

6.scrape up opium, hopefully pure enough to smoke!


**EDIT**

My final process ended up being as follows:

1. Crush pods as finely as possible, then soak in warm water for 30-45 minutes.

2. Filter through cheesecloth into large jar.

3. Repeat process two more times, keeping the last batch for tea.

4. Heat two or three tsp/oz (depending on batch size, but more is always better) of paraffin wax, and mix thoroughly into (still warm) mixture.

5. Pour liquid through cheesecloth into another jar or bowl, removing wax and fats.

6. repeat 4 and 5 until sufficiently purified. (five or six times)

7. Use a stovetop to slowly evaporate water, being careful not to burn putty.

8. Take off of stovetop when all the water is almost evaporated, then transfer to heat lamp for final drying (You can use an oven set to like 150ish).

9. Scrape up opium, hopefully pure enough to smoke!

Works pretty well, I smoke about .1- .2 grams to get a pretty chill high for about an hour. Its all flakes, because of the way it chips off of whatever you dry it on, but its easier to smoke than tar.

 

that seems like it might work, you should browse through google on deffating with paraffin wax, and that would make a better final product here are 2 links for teks that have a large amount of useful info that can help you

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=38937

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=51156

hope that helps, and report back on your experiences

 

Are you talking about opium? The thread title kinda throws it off and doesn't make much sense.

If so, then there are tons of ways you can do it, google works best.

I personally didn't care for the effects of smoked opium...it's not really the same type of high IMO.

 

it just smells good..

 

yeah right u4ia, I guess you're just a pill lover, not into that natural shit. I would pick som opium over oxy or methadone or any pharmie anyday.

 

your right, I changed the title. Thanks china white, I only have a limited amount of space and resources, so any technical procedures, like testing Ph, is kinda out of the question. About the paraffin, is it as easy as pouring wax into the mix, then filtering it out? It sounds like it may be very helpful. Is an acid necessary, or even helpful to add? it seems like there is debate as to whether or not lemon juice will help the solubility. And of course, hot or cold water? I think hot might work better, but you get more useless matter. Id like to get as much input before I do my extraction. Hopefully you guys can help me perfect the process, so future members dont have to guess and expirement their product away.

 

So, I found a thread at somni forums about paraffin, seems legit. Removal of Fats and Oils. Im still debating whether or not to use ice cold, or warm water. Some people say cold is the way to go, others say hot is. Im gonna try a cold water tea and a hot water tea, and determine which is more potent.

 

opiates are extremely soluble in both warm and cold water, the hot will be slightly more potent, but it will also have more impurity's that you will have to filter

 

judging by the tea I made today, warm water is much better. My revised procedure is as follows:

1. Crush pods as finely as possible, then soak in warm water for 30-45 minutes. Add lemon juice to lower pH, and increase solubility.

2. Filter through cheesecloth into large jar.

3. Repeat process two more times, keeping the last batch for tea.

4. Heat two or three tsp of paraffin wax, and mix thoroughly into (still warm) mixture.

5. Pour liquid through three coffee filters into another jar or bowl, removing wax and fats.

6. repeat 4 and 5 until sufficiently purified.

7. Use a heat lamp to slowly evaporate water, being careful not to burn putty.

8.scrape up opium, hopefully pure enough to smoke!

 

If you can get this to work please let me know. I'd love to prepare the pods a different way. The taste of the tea is beginning to make me gag... ugh!

Also, in this putty form, couldn't you put the putty into capsles and dose that way?

 

Yea, you can totally put it to some caps and swallow them. Depending on the consistency, you can also roll it up into little balls and harden them in the freezer. You can also plug this stuff (it if that's your thing). It'll be a little more intense that way.

I wanted to add, that I've failed horribly at the ice-o-whatever method as well. Didn't work at all the way it was explained to me. Hopefully this method you guys are describing works better.

 

Yea, I've never plugged anything, but some people were suggesting plugging the tea. And I actually had to let the thought cross my mind. The taste is just getting worse and worse, the more I drink it. Has this happened to anyone else? It wasn't all that bad at first, but now... uke:

 

yep. In the beginning I was able to drink the tea without flinching. Now I can barely stand to even smell it without gagging. It also gets worse as your tolerance goes up because you need to make the tea stronger and stronger. Eventually I started making the pod puddy because I couldn't force myself to drink enough tea to keep withdrawals away.

At that point, I decided to give the pods a rest. My wife told me that my body odor had changed and that it sort of smelled like the tea. I pretty much assumed it was because I was drinking the stuff too much. So I quit and went through withdrawals to get my tolerance back down.

 

If you intend to eat the putty, it doesnt really matter how you prepare it. The impurities wont really matter, unless you have a sensitive stomach. You can just evaporate the tea down, and eat that, or put in capsules. Or your ass, I guess.

 

I don't understand what the putty comes from exactly? I have a blender and blend the pods down to a snortable powder. Once the poppy straw (the grinded up pod powder) is in the water there is barely any solid matter in the mix. Very few visible pieces of pod are floating around.

So my question is, once the water starts to evaporate what is left over? Those tiny particles of pod that I originally mixed in? If that's the case, then why not just grind the pods to a powder and put the powder in capsles? Or does the powder and water mixture give the putty some sort of texture? Meaning that some of the water doesn't evaporate and is left behind with the powder; in order to to form the putty??

It seems to me that mixing the powder with water, and then evaporating the water out of it would only decrease the potency of the original poppy straw (powder). So does mixing the pods with water add some sort of strange potency, or create a more alkaloid dense substance (ie there is more alkaloids per square inch in the putty then in the original powder)?

Anyone have some knowledge the could shed on this subject? It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks ahead of time guys.



p.s. sorry if this wasn't clear, it's 5 in the morning, and I've been studying (and drinking tea ) all night for my 2 finals tomorrow. I'll re-read this tomorrow and clarify if need be. Thanks again, and to all a good night.. er morning.

 

hey piink, you don't just strait up evap the water, you make your tea and then you filter it, defat with paraffin, and ideally ice-o-late that final mixture before evaping with the theory that the active ingredients stay in the liquid while you get rid of the nasty plant matter and end up with what is called cooked flake opium.

 

So, let me get this straight. you DONT strain the pod matter out when you make tea? When I make tea, I take the ground up pods, soak them in warm water for 30 minutes, and then pour the pod mash through a cheesecloth to filter out the tea from the pod matter. Do you not do that part? Because you could probably avoid a lot of discomfort by not drinking the useless pod matter. If you do filter out the pods, the water thats left over contains opium, plus a bit of fats, lipids and some small particles of pod matter. If you dont intend to smoke the putty (whats suspended in the water) then you dont need to purify it. You can just evaporate the water slowly, and eat the gum thats left over. The reason for this thread is to find the best method for purifying opium to smoke.

 

So, I just did the first test batch to see how the process would go. Everything went correctly, except for the coffee filters, they didnt work at all. I started with four stacked on top of each other, and the liquid didnt drain at all. Even one dripped so slowly that I gave up. So I just used my cheesecloth to strain out the wax, but I dont know how pure I got it. I did the wax mix twice, I burned my hands enough that I didnt want to do it again. I think it worked pretty well, the mixture seems a lot thinner. The next step is to evaporate it, but thats pretty simple. Ill let you guys know how the opium smokes once its done.

 

sounds like it should work, if you want you can use t shirts instead of a coffee filter, drains a bit faster and wont get soggy like the paper does

 

the reason I used coffee filters was because I thought they might catch any small particles that got through the cloth. I dont think it matters though, because the paraffin seemed to have cleaned the mixture pretty well.