CIA and Waterboarding

Just reported this morning: Five former Secretarys of State call for closing Guantanamo.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/03/27/secstate_0328.html

Funny how it's the Bushes and Clintons that were present.

 

More on closing Guantanamo:

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Secretaries_Advice.html?cxntlid=inform_artr

 

Real Large, thanks for posting that link, interesting. The power of psychology is clearly evident in that interrogation as well as the one I told of. Excellent examples of the strength and weaknesses of the human mind, as well as the natural instincts that we ALL have, including someone as ruthless as Saddam Hussein.

Which aspect of the trial was unreasonable? I was unable to watch most of the trial, just snippets that were on CNN.

 

Nov, 19, 2008, Bill Maher in 'The Tonight Show with Jay Leno' said:

" After 9/11, we panicked!
We attacked a wrong country because we panicked;
We tortured people because we panicked.
We didn't have to torture people to beat the Nazis;
We didn't have to tap phones to beat the Soviets. "

 

Bill Maher is an arrogant prick.

 

Exactly

 

Bill Maher is an arrogant prick.

He makes Republicans angry because he's better-informed and more patriotic than the typical drooling rightwing moron. It's funny.

 

Thats why Wackiraqi doesn't like him.

 

The last time I heard him spouting off he was calling Sarah Palin an idiot because one of her aids claimed she said Africa was a country. If that is the best argument he can come up with, that is fucking pathetic.

 

Senator McCain was never tortured. As an Admiral's son he was given extra considerations for his comforts.

 

Very true.

 

That's all any of us saw, except for his botched hanging, which was all over the internet.

 

Love is the solution to all of our problems.

 

Love? I don't think there is much room for love in this game. But I think much can be gained by knowing your adversaries strengths and weeknesses well.

 

Brains not brawn.

 

A self-perpetuating game.

Btw, I am pretty sure that's a quote by Winston Churchill, not by Orwell, there is no evidence confirming that.

Anyway, there is science behind non-violence, and it has proven to be effective, just like how that story you posted shows how non-violence actually works better in the end than violent means.

Sun Tzu was a ruthless, ugly person.

http://webcast.berkeley.edu/rss/course-archive.php?seriesid=1906978360

Very interesting course

 

Everybody can be broken. Identifying the fracture point is the key. People who fall into extreme beliefs, whether it be religious, racist, etc.. are often susceptible to influence, therefore having a strong understanding of the topic will allow the interrogator to use that weakness against the subject.

 

I agree with what you said. I just don't see it as a war strategy so much as simple compassion and understanding and trying to show the other the wrongs that they have committed.

Nice changes on your quote btw

 

So wacky, what is your breaking point? Every post from you is about the importance of the the American Empire, therefore you are an extremist also. You may not see yourself as one, but you are.

 

I would suppose that maybe my breaking point is that if tested, I might not be able to bear the burdon of knowing I am causing an individual extreme pain or death. And knowing that I hold the power to stop it by providing the source of that pain or death with something that they desire.