i was noticing this about my friend/fuck buddy when we went to visit last weekend. he's been on a major health kick. he's doing AWESOME. he's lost all kinds of weight. he was always a big, kinda round, bald redheaded guy. NO ONE would ever call him good looking. but he was TOTALLY sexy. now that he's all healthy, his cheeks are sinking in and he just looks wilted. he's not sexy. i would NEVER EVER tell him that, because he's a good friend and i care for him. but still, he looked better fat. what a trip, right? now dave's gonna lose all kinds of weight, because he's just plain fit anyway. but every time he loses weight, there's just not as much to wrap my arms around. that was one of my favorite things about him. after being with my ex, who was very thin, for so long, wrapping my arms around a big, thick hard chest was just heaven.
semantics. I've never said women just come up to me, drop to their knees and unzip my fly. I still have to talk the talk and that. I will not pay them in any way. I will not buy them drinks, meals or anything else unless I feel like it. that is what I meant when I said "no effort." I do love the chase, but to me the "chase" is just talking shit, vibing, determining whether or not she is interested, determining if she meets my standards, etc. you feel like this is payment, I feel like it is a mutual effort and the most natural thing in the world. I do not manipulate, I am who I am, and if they like me, and I like them, maybe something will happen. if a girl wants me without me even communicating who I am, then I lose respect and interest simultaneously. you say you want women to desire you the way you desire them, with no kind of effort, but who would desire such a woman? no self-respecting man, in my opinion. your resentment of women is clearly rooted in your own issues. maybe that is what you should focus on, instead of learning how to manipulate people into bending to your will.
Until the second paragraph I was digging your post and felt I had something to add. But it seems your judgment is made. P.S. I also realize I was judgmental in saying "the chase" is inherently manipulative. I should have said it is manipulative for me. I don't want a woman to start unzipping my pants since that is not what I do to women. I want a woman to meet me half way. And to me that means, no prey, no aggressor. Instead, two mutually interested human beings.
Wow there seems to be some judging going on here... Anyway , my advise George is invest some time in reading Cherea's links , and assoc'd stuff. I think u need to learn some life management and how to interact with/ "respect" bitc... oops I mean *women* U need to work out where and how to find the sort of women u want. Also what your current "level" is , and how to make yourself more enticing to them. Good luck
judgment was only made when you said you hate the women you fuck. I see where you're coming from, and like I said a few posts before, I'm sure things are different in big cities/the US, but your words are not true in my reality or in my experience. the bolded text is pretty much in direct agreement with how I approach this issue - but the man is still the hunter, and he still has to make the first move. that's the natural order of things. they will meet you half way, but most of the time you will have to make the first move. (I say most of the time, because I am sure you have had plenty of women approach you and basically offer themselves up. and I know that when that happens to me, I am usually turned right off and will find someone else to talk to instead.)
I'm a really bad person. I have sex with hookers. I get into fights. I drink. I gamble. I work two jobs and blow all of my money. I went to college so I could get a cushy job 50k a year... and I got it .. I'm a terrible person. I am truly sorry to everyone for my behavior apart from those young kids whom I maintain should not be posting here.
well, you're single. i don't really see who you're hurting besides yourself. *shrugs* and you're 25. isn't that what 25 year olds are supposed to do, before they get too decrepit to do it anymore?
well my suggestion was meet a girl and just be friends with benefits. beats the hell out of getting diseases.. but I guess this thread went way over the boundaries about that
Well, it's no different than you judging the women who approach you. I don't feel I have a problem with women I initiate toward. I feel I have a problem with women who act coy, disinterested, etc. So, I think it's just a case where we're attracted to women of opposite personality traits. I am not going to make any statements concerning the natural order of things, or some such.
um. i'm the opposite of coy. i bug the living shit out of you most times. i think you love the women you hate. :leaving: *snickers*
I only feel bugged by you when you bug me. Sometimes you're judgmental about me being pretentious or over-analytical when I think some of it, at least, is beyond my control. I don't like pushy. Everything else about you I find very endearing.
being turned off and hating someone are two very different things, my friend. I don't like women (or people) who play games myself. it would seem that a lot of women especially thrive on drama and games though, but the easy solution is to avoid those women and find the cool, easy going ones. I think I might have an easier time of finding those women just because I am very rarely in cities. no doubt about it, people act quite differently in a big city than on a tropical island. it's not necessarily that we are attracted to women of opposite personality traits, I think it's more that you and I have a lot of opposite personality traits, and quite a different outlook on things. which is good - makes the world less boring.