Netherland Shroom Ban Dec 1st =[

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by Reefer Rogue, Nov 28, 2008.

  1. Reefer Rogue

    Reefer Rogue Member

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    Yeah, so i'm pissed [​IMG]

    I'm actually going to Dam 2nd of December til the 4th, i may be able to get someone to buy me a box before it's too late, we'll see.

    Fucking reactionary right wingers, more civil liberties eroded day by day. They're censoring my choice to make an autonomous decision about what i do with my life mind and body. Who the fuck do they think they are? Dickheads! Hopefully the smartshops win the appeal but i doubt it now, the world's going to shit.

    I can't be bothered to post any links, damn it, the world sucks ass sometimes. They'll never ban alcohol or tobacco, instead they demonize cannabis, shrooms and lsd which are far safer.

    At least i still have Grey Area [​IMG]
     
  2. Bad.Fish

    Bad.Fish Sex wee pon de babylon

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    yeah things are shit at the moment...salvia, herbals, and everything like that are getting major bad press here...last night there was a documentary on about how legal highs are worse then drugs, they even had 5 under 18's go into 10 different headshops around the country to try and buy salvia and herbals and in 7 of the shops they werent asked for id...fuck sake minister for health here has called an emergency ban on all drug substitutes too
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Ah well, it's not like we won't be able get them anymore. And I enjoy seeing how the smoking bans doesn't seem to work :D. I also thought they were talking about the backdoorpolicy of the coffeeshops, no idea about the outcome yet, but it might be legalized in some regulated way. It's not all that black and white in my opinion.

    By the way, lsd is more save then tobacco? :p
     
  4. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    we lost the mushrooms in 2005. i know your pain.
     
  5. Vapemaster

    Vapemaster Captain of a sinking ship

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    Yes, all the shit added to cigarettes makes it horrible for you. Health wise lsd is safer but if your average idiot is taking LSD then that's where it becomes unsafe.
     
  6. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    You know, if you dont like the statutes of a society, you could always just leave it.


    www.thinkfree.ca


    Dunno if the Redemption movement would work in your country, but it wouldnt hurt to try.
     
  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Yeah well, they're so different I wouldn't even compare them.
     
  8. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    Cannabis was recently reclassified from a recent C to a B again in UK. Yeah, nothing gets better but what you do yourself.

    I see its shite everywhere else too.

    Reading such things, and seeing how shittier the world is becoming day by day bringsup incredible anger inside me. I have to confess - i dont know what to do with this anger, i used to experience it daily before , and it would eat me slowly. I fear that if one day i have the opportunity to wipe out mankind, i will - just for being what it is. But at the same time, it hurts, knowing that not all of it is like that, which is exactly why i still havent pulled the plug on my own sharade yet.

    Fuck, will it ever stop? Only solution i see is a holocaust of 90% of the worlds population.
     
  9. Reefer Rogue

    Reefer Rogue Member

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    That just equates to, if you don't like American then you can git out! =/

    That's not affordable, nor logical, especially if you're suggesting it's so easy, then everyone could do it, but they can't and they don't. I'm from London, i just put my location to Amsterdam coz i wanna move there one day, but even the Hol(y)land is becoming more conservative :(

    I don't want to emigrate though, i'd rather fight to change the laws. Legalize it.
     
  10. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    I think you have misunderstood.

    you dont have to leave a country to leave its society, you just dont abide by its laws, nor do they apply to you.


    Government is defined by the mutual consent of the governers and the governed.


    If that mutual consent isn't there, then there is no way they can govern you, in a free democratic society.

    Forcing government upon you is called tyranny.
     
  11. CircaX43521

    CircaX43521 rat in a drain ditch

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    holy shit, I never thought of it that way.

    so truly, as I don't believe at all in the American government system, I am not an American?
     
  12. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    not really.


    You were born on this land, that is what makes you American.


    This country has been replaced by a corporation, and runs as such.

    They dont want you to know this.

    They'll also fight you every step of the way if you wish to proclaim yourself a free man, because they make money off of you.


    I read once, that with every baby born in Canada, the government there can borrow up to 600 grand, using the human life as collateral.

    Its very interesting, this freeman's movement, something that has caught my attention.

    You really have to know what you are talking about, though, or else you will get ripped to pieces in court.
     
  13. Reefer Rogue

    Reefer Rogue Member

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    Ok, i think i get you now. More of an anarchist philosophy, which i can dig. The only government i follow is my own because i govern myself.
     
  14. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    Define 'safe'...

    Maybe physically, lsd will do you less damage; but give an unsane acid experience to the in-trained eye at the wrong place and time and the dangers are rife.
     
  15. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    No you don't have to consent, but you're not allowed to break the laws either. Elections and protests are supposed to be what happens when mutual trust is broken. I mean government could never make everyone happy anyways. Look at this last election, 52/47. It's not so much government as it is people too. It can be argued laws are nothing but a legal codification of a society's morals and taboos, which they basically are, and that's what needs to changed.
     
  16. Vapemaster

    Vapemaster Captain of a sinking ship

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    neither would I, cigarettes fucking suck. LSD is incredible.
     
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