TL-DR (Too Long - Didn't Read)

I’m with Aris

This is a wonderful place to learn, I’ve learnt a great deal since I’ve been here and gain great insights into peoples attitudes and outlooks both in a broader sense and over current political events.

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Maryjohn

If you want to discuss the ‘heavier’ side of politics just go ahead, that’s the beauty of this place you can decide what you want it to be.

My post was a plea for at least some in depth debate and a move away from the shallows of sound bites and slogans.

But if you you’re only interested in being entertained and not being stretched then that’s fine but why bitch at other if they strive for more?

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I agree with Piney and Fyrenza

If you are not going to have the courtesy to read someone’s post then don’t turn insult into injury and reply to it with some pat or glib answer.

But it seems to me if people always shy away from the what they see as ‘too’ long or complex or what they call ‘boring’ then they never come out of their comfort zone (as Piney puts it) and are therefore in danger of not growing as a person, of stagnating.

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No, your post was an overlong self-aggrandizing fountain of drivel- lacking, above all, depth. It did not move us away from sound bytes and slogans but rather, like most of your posts I have read, moved us towards giving opinions on somebody's personal style. You don't need to lay out your whole thought process to be deep. Brevity is the soul of wit.

I wasn't asking permission, and I was not criticizing the forum community. I like it the way it is. I am merely not deluded with regards to the content.

nobody's bitching. you started this thread, not me. strive away. You've had quite a few helpful responses here, mine included. Actually, if you reduce by about 80% the volume of verbiage you employ, you may find yourself pushed to finer thoughts and more nuanced positions, maybe even some insights. Just try it. Spend some time editing your posts so that your ideas are explained and supported as efficiently as possible, with a focus on eliminating redundancies. You will suddenly realize your audience is much more astute than you ever allowed.



I'm not here just to be entertained (maybe when I read Fyrenza's posts). That seems like much too passive a characterization. I do take what I read here with a grain of salt. I suggest everyone do the same.

 

F. T. W. !!! :rofl: "Brevity = Wit!"

i can't believe you used all of that "boring" "verbiage"

just to tell someone to be succinct.

 

well, i thought it was clever.

 

DUH!

(now i get it...)

<~ PAWNED :rofl:

 

you keep saying "pawned" or "pwned", and I've seen that elsewhere. Could you explain what that means?

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pawned


BTW - I think you and Balbus have a lot in common...
But your posts always come across as slightly mean spirited and designed to be nasty...`

I think Balbus' biggest problem is the amount of time he spends here...most of us spend a lot of time here but tend to post shorter responses because we have a lot of irons in the fire.
Balbus tends to come here infrequently (well atleast posts infrequently) but tends to want to get into very deep conversations.
That is fair enough...

 

i'm pretty sure Pawned means "cut low", as in

cut so low you have to look up to see down!

Owned is like "Gotcha!"

In other words, what i was saying by using the arrow to my avy, was you "Gotcha"ed me! :rofl:

 

I see.

Does that not seem a wee bit childish to you?

 

Nope.

When you're wrong, you're wrong,

and it's just common courtesy to acknowledge the fact.

 

Maryjohn

I’m not saying you don’t enjoy posting here, am saying that you seem to be saying that you think nobody here has the intelligence or insight to teach you anything.

I’m one of those people that believes you can always learn something new, that anyone can teach you something and that trying to communicate some idea in the hope of imparting some knowledge is a good thing.

Maybe if you held people in more regard here you might see them as being worth learning from?

As it is, as pointed out elsewhere, you positively seem to revel in being ‘nasty’ and putting people down.

 

Odon

You might be on to something here.

I actually do come here a lot but it just happens to be at times when many members are not here so I don’t get that backwards and forwards conversation type posts that happen when a lot of members are online together.

At the same time knowing I’m not going to be here for that I usually only post once or twice a day and try to cover all the bases.

I then came back the next day, read through all the replies and then try and cover everything said in them.

Short ‘conversational’ replies are a lot more difficult when there are gaps of 15-20 hours between my posts.

As a result my original posts are longer than most people because I’m trying to explain myself in full and in advance of others comments and my replies are longer and fragmentary because I’m covering all the comments made during the night (my night, the Americas day).

You’re also right about me choosing my subjects or threads more carefully although I read many threads I don’t reply to all.

 

Is a tendency to want to get into a little deep debate about political issues worthwhile, can it happen on the internet?

 

Please, when you get frustrated with me, do not make things up for the purpose of formulating a personal attack, especially by way of putting words in my mouth that are an insult to everyone who reads and posts on this forum. I did not say no one has the intelligence or insight to teach me anything, nor do I "seem" to be saying it. I learn plenty here, but I always have to check it somewhere else, because of the anonymous nature of the forum, not because of the people who post here. Sitting across from someone, making a statement of fact or argument, and citing your source as some guy on the internet named wackyiraqi does not cut it.

And please, save me the bromides.

As for being "nasty", I am indeed aggressive, but I do not tend to personal attacks. Maybe in the case of someone wasting my time with a barely discernible rant, I might respond to attacks in kind for entertainment, but I don't employ personal attacks as a foundation for my argument. In your case, I have said nothing negative about your character, person, or anything but arguments you gave and conclusions you arrived to. I thought the OP was ridiculous, because it was so blind to the problem, which was on full display. It's not everyone here that has a problem. Your posts are long winded, redundant, and not as deep as you think they are.

 

Balbus? Well said! :hurray:

Uhmmm, MaryJohn? Balbus is absolutely correct in his assessment of your posts, and where they're coming from. The one thing he left out was that you come across as a pompous ass, and, to quote Mr. T, 'i pity the fool' that gets wangled up with you, in "real life"...

 

Did MaryJohn get banned?

 

No, he's just been MIA.

 

Wonder if the insecticides got him?

You know, he may have come back, in a new incarnation that is willing to actually LISTENING to other folks, which would give them the courtesy of reining in his arrogance.

Hey! Stranger stuff has happened!

 

What was that Fyre?

 

Well, let's see...

i accidently pulled a city bus into a fast-food drive-thru.

THAT was pretty strange ~

at least, for the passengers! :rofl: