Why do we live in chaos?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by tie_dye_kid_454, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. tie_dye_kid_454

    tie_dye_kid_454 Member

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    Ok. The police cause fear. Doctors make the sick worse. Teachers close minds... What is going on?! it seems like the world is crumbling apart, What do we do? Anyone else feel like society has already crumbled? Or has there never been society, or order... Just a random thought crossing my mind :(
     
  2. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    I wouldn't really agree with any of those things, to be honest.
     
  3. neodude1212

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    yeah you lost me on all of this.

    and even if all of those examples really do what you say they do, then you must admit that there are organized influences designed to cause chaos, which I guess technically is still a product of order.
     
  4. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    The only real chaos is a lack of understanding.

    The world has been as it always has been.

    It is your perception that must change, not the world itself.

    The world is already upholding it's part of the deal as your teacher. You must uphold yours as a student.



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  5. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    i think the answer to your question is that there are too m any people in the world, so people have a lot to gain from other people's loss
     
  6. bthizle1

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    Well the same basic shit has been going on since the Neanderthals to the Cromagnums to our current state of Homo Sapiens. So, you can't blame it all on population, it's just that because population has gone up there's naturally going to be far more deaths, violence etc...that's just a given. The ideal of "civilization" being implemented into human survival (life), has in my opinion caused more chaos than any other single "step" we as man have taken. With this organized religion was able to really influence large communities as a whole, more of an emphasis is put on social norms, and larger groups of people can be sustained, all equating in more man power and more "reasons" to fight eachother; with the added ability to unite man (through norms/religion etc...) against man. Civilization more than any thing has caused the mass chaos we know today, often times the "civilized" feel it is their duty to "civilize" others. The Egyptians, Mayans, Mycenaeans, (many more greek civs too..Athens especially), Phoenicians, Babylonians, Chinese, Etruscans (whole reason the Romans came about), Romans, Lydians, Macedon (Philip II and his son Alexander), Epiruts, Carthaginians, Persians, Aztecs, basically all western European nations at one point or another (crusades is a perfect example), Mongols, Byzantines....well I think you get the point...there's PLENTY of examples. Ultimately it's civilization that has allowed for chaos on such a massive scale...and yes population does play in to civilization, but it's only a "piece".
     
  7. OldTroll

    OldTroll Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    In my world the police protect the weak, doctors cure the ill, and teachers open minds.

    We are all free to choose the world we live in.
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I agree with the answer that there are too many people. That on itself is already getting a problem, but the fact that we can't control our society is adding to that problem immensely. That's why lots of 'health products' are advertised like they're the ultimate cure while they only hydrate your skin for example, and why some police cause fear (in an attempt to control a roaring crowd of people). It's in favor of the masses, the economy and the idea of control.
     
  9. tie_dye_kid_454

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    Yeah i know but i always feel uneasy about the state of the world
     
  10. bthizle1

    bthizle1 Member

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    That's just part of living consciously in our current world. The other option would be to turn towards ignorance, and live a blissful life without compassion towards others suffering. You choose....that's the beauty of our lives.

    Oh, and are you really 14? If so, you've got A LOT of eye opening events that'll take place in the future...you think you're uneasy about the situation the world is in now.....
     
  11. tie_dye_kid_454

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    Yes, i am 14 :) I know, i feel something big is gonna happen, and i went to see this psychic (cos im interested in that stuff) and she said something about me being a "indigo child" whatever that means
     
  12. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Indigo children are generally kids of parents who wants them to be special. I wouldn't give much thought to it. According to the people who came up with the indigo child idea more than half of the population under the age of 25 are indigo children. If they really were so special we should have noticed some change in society by now I think :p
     
  13. Hoatzin

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    Yeah, it always seems a bit paedo-cum-Nazi to me.
     
  14. neodude1212

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    Indigoooooooosss UNITE!!!

    WHOA OOHH!!

    :biggrin:
     
  15. OldTroll

    OldTroll Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    FOTW

    Here are ten of the most common traits of Indigo Children:

    . . . 1. They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).
    . . . 2. They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
    . . . 3. Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
    . . . 4. They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
    . . . 5. They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
    . . . 6. They get frustrated with systems that are ritual-oriented and don't require creative thought.
    . . . 7. They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
    . . . 8. They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
    . . . 9. They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
    . . 10. They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

    . . . Do you fit this description?



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  16. Asmodean

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    Dude, many kids fit in those description. If you got ADHD and show some arrogance you're most likely indigo as well. It's just nonsense. You know they're called indigo kids because the colour of their aura?
     
  17. neodude1212

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    This is basically a synopsis of how a spoiled child would act, but then the title "indigo child" is tacked onto it, thus making them spoiled AND makes them think they are something special.
     
  18. The Instinct

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    http://www.policeabuse.com/ = proof that the police DO NOT always protect the weak as much as you think they would. An organization of lawyers and professionals who go to battle for you if you've been wronged by authority. Perception? I think a lack of opening our minds about a peaceful way of life is a perception that needs to be opened up instead of closed down to gain selfish existence of power over each other.

    http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=253142&f=24 = a poem I wrote when I was upset about life and it's chaos so I put a title to it and wrote my feelings about it. Read it if you wish. You may find that you relate, or you may not.
     
  19. Hoatzin

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    Yeah, that's basically autism though, isn't it. I mean, even if you assume that Indigo children DO exists, there's either a hell of a lot of them, or you'd be taking an awful risk assuming that your kid was one when he could just as easily just be a little cock.

    I don't think anyone suggested that there's no such thing as police brutality. Just that it's a bit of an over-simplification.
     
  20. bigblondeafro87

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    Read about the chaos theory. Nothing happens randomly or purely by chance.
     
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