I can prove the existance of God. Right now.

Let me help you out here, science does not say they KNOW where life comes from. They have a great deal of evidence that is getting more abundant each day but all true scientist's will say that they do not 100% for a fact how life originated.

And that's fine, that makes sense, we're a rather new addition to this universe so we still have ALOT to learn.

Religion on the other hand say's that they do know FOR SURE how life came to be. Of course they can never agree on who's foolish story is as they see it "the real one", so they kill and squabble and slow human advancement to a crawl with their racism hate and fear they inspire into children when they tell them that their are monsters who want to torture them to death for all eternity.

Religion is for fool's and cowards any religion that has even a slightest hint of the supernatural is a complete scam.

Anyone who follows a religion is a hypocrite.

Religion is not a good thing it is the WORST thing.

In case you skipped to the end of the tirade I'll summarize for Yeal,

You didn't prove anything as far as the supernatural goes.

"Aids is better than condoms"- Jerry Falwell, to a large mass of African converts.

 

To me it gets summed up easily for me. We exist, therefore we were created-brought to being. That existence is called Life. Something somewhere had to have started it all. I call it the "creator" instead of "god" as the name "God" is man made/religion based and holds too many rules that have holes, contradictory, and hypocritical. If we wipe out everything that we know and take it to the roots of questioning "why, how? etc" of origin we still come to the conclusion we exist and haven't got a rat's ass clue. Hence, it's easy for me to say a "Creator" (capital C) instead of "God". How can we possibly know what our Creator is all about and like when there is dated proof and evidence of known happenings before "religion" came into existence that has permanently altered our existence of becoming more spiritual with each other? I see the name of "God" being control, power, or dictatorship and see the name "creator" being free, spiritual, and magical.

Something to ponder at least.

 

i belive in Creator in the lakota way and that said of what u posted is so far the best way to put it

 

Interesting, albeit circular views expressed in this thread. I'm going to keep it simple.

I don't use the word "God" simply because to the majority it represents a false idol. I do not believe in the man with the beard, or some outside source more divine than we are, I believe this is a human illusion casted from "fear" and "ego."

If there is anything divine, look no further than yourself and all that exists around you. Infinite is a reality, it's a proven fact logically speaking, unless you disagree in human logic and call that an illusion, which is fine. You can always beg the question "Where did it come from?" which has been restated time and time again in this thread.

A common religious illusion is that this question proves the existence of an infinite God. Once again, this is just as biased as believing in a limited God even though it fits the paradigm of the obvious infinite. View God in terms of the infinite timeline, and somewhere along the lines of this infinite timeline God decided to spurt life? If you analyze it deeply enough, it really doesn't make any coherent sense.

I believe in the 'infinite.' Not some outside powerful omnipotent that punishes and rewards us. Why must we imagine some being as being the origin, when in terms of infinite, there was no origin, beginning or end, to begin with? (Ironically worded, eh?) If we grasp infinite as a reality, it's just as easy to see the infinite universe (time doesn't exist, eternal present moment) as the ultimate beingness and oneness, that has never had an origin, or an end. The common egoic rebuttal is "No. There had to have been a creator! There just has to be" But this illusion of there being an infinite creator is taking an extra unnecessary step in seeing the obvious truth, that we awareness itself, we are it, we are God if you so prefer the word, our consciousness may have evolved on the infinite timeline or shifted energy frequencies but we are it, we are all part of the infinite whole that always was.

Time does not exist. The reason I don't side on either the scientific or religious side in these type of debates is that so much of the debate involves time, rather than acceptance of the obvious present infinite. Time is a manmade faction, and time is a human illusion that has forced us to perceive some imagined bullshit beginning and end, when the conception of it has caused endless war, conflict, and harmful religious propoganda.

Religion has its obvious illusions, which has caused more separation and grief than anything. And science also has flukes and illusions as well coming from the false mind. If it wasn't for time and this harboring human obsession of there always being an origin, a product of time, than these made up religious symbology would have never existed or caused the separation. There is nothing to understand. We are 'God' if the word comforts people, personally I resent using it, I prefer just saying we are here, and we are now and infinite.

After death, we'll perhaps become our elements, extremely simplistic forms of consciousness and divided energy and obviously have no where near the awareness that we have in our human vessels, but it's obvious we will have this awareness again, since infinite is a reality, and if you comprehend infinite at all, you'll realize everything that could possibly happen will happen. The concept is frightening to some people, the idea is to just accept it and embrace it.

"Heaven" and "Hell" are imaginary concepts that exist here on earth. View yourself as part of the ultimate whole "God" that everything is, that we all are, and you will be in your own personal heaven. Use your ego and find yourself separate from what is and separate from the whole that you are, than you exist in your own personal "hell." Right now I exist in a limbo, seeing both for what they are because of my natural curiousity though I wish I'd just be holy already, dammit.

Look at it like this. If you are greedy and mean to other human beings, you are essentially being mean to yourself, because these people ARE you. Their soul and frequencies are a reflection of yourself. People mirror each other in conversations and share the same reality because their souls temporarily merge. Basically, the infinite universe itself is God and God not wanting to be one entity split itself upon infinite forms for its own entertainment, because it'd be boring being one single entity wouldn't it? We're all products of the same being, we're like these split entities that don't realize we're the same being. It's God playing hide-and-go-seek. When you love and see others as the same as you, that is love, and that is loving yourself (because you are God) because those others ARE you.

I could elaborate on this subject more. It's nothing new and I'm not claiming to come across this as newfound knowledge. I've done a lot of critical thinking throughout my life and this is what I rest on based off my endless contemplation, I've done psychedelics and others, and this is what I believe. Corrections or alterations in my intrepretation of reality are welcome.

 

I'm no rocket scientist. But I do like word play, languages, and semantics.

Should Holy have really read Wholly, or WHOLE? as in ...ONE. As opposed to one individual being Holier than another? as in ... Division?

 

they cannot be like "OMG im now aware" your right.. but if they can collide and become a planet, well then becoming a living being isnt too unimaginable..

 

I think it's a measure of how many metachlorines or something you need before you can become a Jedi.

 

No sense in reading the other 606 posts after the OP.

I fail to understand how anybody can have such defective thinking!

 

i think im chosen to bring balance to the force

 

we all are chosen to bring balance to some extent , but in the end the only thing that is sertin is death so in that may be it was death that spawned life

 

Nice lol What is your prophecy then and how you do it?

 

I agree with this.

Death is for certain yes, and why we go to such extremes to prevent death is beyond me. We are not "God" and why a good amount try to play this role is evil. I wonder why we don't try to comfort each other more during the process of death. Attachment to one another is nice, but a complete fear of letting go makes me wonder.

 

lol, my prophecy is that everyones actions influence the strain of time whatever their actions may be and death and life, are like yin and yang, theres a beginning, and an end, but there is a point where the beginning meets the end. hindu belief but true in many retrospects, whatever your belief may be.

 

oh, btw, that guys nuts are showing in your pic

 

People go to such extremes to prevent or at least find peace in death because we are a primitive race just a couple chromosomes away from picking lice with the rest of the primates.


We are afraid of the dark and we are afraid to die. And there is nothing wrong with that.

 

the dark, is black, and the light is white. only weak minds deal in absolutes.

 

So true. People think everything is black and white. Even in a system of black and white there is an infinite number of shades of grey in between.

 

I like newreality's explanation the best. The day I realized that everything is happening right now and is infinite it blew all my beliefs out of the water. Why can't things just be? Why does there have to be a creator? We always have to divide everything up. The answer is always in front of our face if we wake up to it. We have DNA in every cell of our body that if stretched out is 2000 miles long. The more I find out about life the more it blows me away. And I'm apart of it all.

 

whats more crazy is the ecosystem of existence. our body is a cell like the blood in us. society is a cell, like our body, but in expanse. the galaxy is a cell inside the universe. when a cell dies inside the body, its partially absorbed inside, and a miniscule amount is excreted from the body. our mind is us. do the math

 

I believe that most religious faiths center around an unwavering and unproven belief in lies. I think this faith can trap people's minds with comforting ideas that we will all live in happiness while the people who have wronged us will suffer. In my opinion organized religion is one of the most ingenious human inventions to control humanity ever invented. I do think, however, that the core messages of most religions are things to strive for. I think these teachings should be approached by each person on an individual basis instead of other people manipulating the messages and screwing people over. Now when it comes to God there is very little if not anything to "prove" that he/she/it exists. I think that if there is a 'God', or an intelligent creator, than he cannot be similar to humans at all. In all the vastness of the universe and all the expanse of space that we can't even comprehend I think it's a little arrogant and egotistical for humanity to think that everything is focused around us. Because we're just "a primitive race just a couple chromosomes away from picking lice with the rest of the primates," as Rudenoodle said. I personally think that if there is a God then it is inside us all and that everything in this universe is part of this one great mystery. Everything living and non-living all connected and intertwined as one. Now of course we will never know the answers, we will never be given the luxury of the truth. So all there is left to do is live our short lives as best we can and hope that there is something more after death and that we will eventually find the truth. Be it burning to ashes and scattered molecules or becoming immersed in some higher plane of existence.