Acid is a strange thing...not even a drug...

In one of my earlier experiences, i started the trip of really weird, i remember at one point i was in a white room and the lights were flickering, i had yet to ever hallucinate for my first time (I don't consider that hallucinating at all) Any way the trip got good at one point, i was stupefied in the hole (A small cubby hole type thing in my friends apartment) And i was fine until i realized how horrible what i did was to get the acid that night and had my bad trip to teach me a lesson. Any way as i was leaving the apartment i tripped in walking down the many flights of stairs i noticed that the moon hit a lock on a window so perfect it made the shadow from the goosebumps TV show i watched growing up. It tripped me out so bad, but i dident remember it at the time at all. So quite a while later i had my first REAL hallucination, the curtain in my friends house wrapped around me and held me on his couch listening to White rabbit, California dreaming and other psychedelic music. And after that i had to go drink with my parents so i walk up and i had an awkward moment when my freinds mom since i was 3 kissed me in a sexual manner, infront of my mom and her other freinds, i looked out the window and saw a chimney next door and it looked like something out of a Dr.Susse book or something. Anyway getting to the important part, my last trip i was with my freind Brooke, shes a bit more unexperienced then me in this field so i figure i'd show her a real trip not any of that "Im trippin, i feel so stupid shit." so we start our trip in the same apartment as the place where i saw the Goosebumps symbol. And as we just start to trip leaving the apartment for the walk to my house to set off the trip...she pointed it out to me, now i remembered it from before and i turned around to show my boy jesse i got off of that night, he says oh the goose bumps symbol, i saw it earlier. That tripped me the fuck out like no other thing. Later in the night i was walking Brooke home, and we were walking in front of the same house my freinds mom kissed me in and she points at the same chimney and says "Look, a Dr. Susse chimney. At that point i processed that, i took her threw the same experiences i had and she is now in the same point of view as i am now that we are sober for a few weeks

Has anyone experienced anything like this, some one experiencing your past trips because these things meant so much to you and made your mind open so much?

 

just remember, acid is rat poison and not the same as lsd and you can make it in a bathtub to pay for college

 

acid, lsd, fry, cid, blotter, etc... is a chemical not a drug.

 

QFT

 

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n.

1. 1. A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
   2. Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
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drugs are mind/body altering substances. yeah, lsd is a chemical, but is is ALSO a drug.

 

yum

 

sorry but no. You are quoting FDA and DEA mantra where they call anything that can affect your mood a drug. Look at the hypocrisy of cigarettes! Free your mind of the establishment. You're just saying what "they" want you to believe.

All drugs are made up of chemicals but not all chemicals are drugs.

One example of many: Huffing paint or glue can make you hallucinate but those are chemicals not drugs. Albert Hoffman discovered a chemical compound not a drug. Most laypeople and narcs refer to just about anything we partake of a drug.

you get it?

 

Quantum field theory? lol

 

huffing shit just deprives your brain of oxygen, that's why it makes you hallucinate. it doesn't introduce anything into your system, like say nitrous oxide does.

but that argument is just ridiculous. of course LSD is a chemical, and of course LSD is a drug. but that doesn't make it necessarily bad- the word "drug" just tends to have a bad connotation.

don't try to free your mind by denying definition- just do it by understanding that definitions just tell you what something is on the surface. some drugs are bad, smoe drugs are arguably "good"- but they're all drugs.

 

Cool everybody can agree to disagree. I'm twice your age and worldly education but who's counting. :cheers2:

But if you think huffing is the equivalent of holding your breath as far as putting anything in your system then you're, forgive me, being a little ignorant. Those are some serious chemicals going to your brain and body.

that's the 'white man" way, (yes I'm white) the systems way of defining and creating perceptions so we can say thing out of blind obedience because we googled it.

Some cultures on this planet consider alcohol evil, of the devil and we sell millions of airtime for the superbowl selling...beer! Some countries allow hashish and don't call it a "drug" but sacrament among other names. But our society has a negative label for anything they choose is a threat to the status quo and a positive label for one that is accepted. I choose not to answer to societies definitions and perception-creation but I choose to trust my nervous system...the voice inside me that speaks truth.

aloooha!

 

No one has even came anywhere near answering my question...

 

i dunno its not so much societies perception that it is a drug. its the fact that the english language considers a drug to be, among other things, any chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction. plain and simple.
its like a lot of people who smoke weed say its a herb and not a drug but by the definition of the word it must be a drug.
as CherokeMist said, it dosnt matter whether the drug is considered good or bad it still is a drug.

 

And as for the original question, i think people havnt answered it cos it was so hard to read.
but anyway nah ive never had anything like that. ive had times when i would say something like "hey everything's just turned blue" and then it would happen to my friend. and that continued all night with different colours. but no nothing with past trips.

 

yeah man, i guess we can agree to disagree. whatever. if you want to free your mind from the "constraints of a common language" then be my guest. just don't see how you want to argue basic definition- like i said, calling it a drug doesn't make it good or bad- but, the english language defines all substances that affect the nervous system "drugs". that includes LSD. it's pretty simple, really.

but anyway, to the original question- it does seem a bit unclear, but from what i understand-

i haven't had others experience past trips, but i've had times where a friend and i were experiencing the same perception changes in a certain environment during a trip. one time, i was with three friends (two were on mushrooms, and me and the other were on acid) and we found that we could communicate without speaking, and sort of knew what each others thoughts were. talking about something as simple as the walk to a pizza shop and back to my friends house was so fun, just because we both had the weirdest sensations but they were the same for both of us.

 

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LSD is a drug. Petroleum is a drug. Alcohol is a Drug. Nicotine is a drug.

but.. is DMT a drug?

then is oxygen a drug?

is sodium a drug?

what about lithium?

im sure everything except some inert gasses are going to influence the functioning of your body.

so then the question is: is it naturally meant to be in your body?

but who can draw the line at what is natural anymore? what do humans ingest 'in the wild'?

i used to be adamamant that LSD is a drug and Weed is a drug but if you want to be totally technical then you cant use the word drug.

all you can ask is whether this chemical is going to do you any harm or not..

hmm

 

finally...some wisdom.

 

just because you're older doesn't necessarily mean you're wiser.

 

Bill, then you have to define "harm". What about the people who hurt or kill themselves on acid. Or develop lasting mental issues. That is clearly harm.

 

i still don't get this...

something can be a "drug" among many other things. a sacrament can still be a "drug".

if you ingest LSD, it changes your brain chemistry. if you take LSD you are taking a drug. by definition.

i don't see how it can be argued otherwise...?