Worst President of US

The problem with Monkeyboy is that he wasn't satisfied with just making Americans suffer; he foisted himself on the whole world.

 

Herbert Hoover. A car in every garage and a chicken in every pot.

That went well.

 

Well, I'm a vegetarian...... I guess it's good that FDR won :cheers2:

 

The South started the Civil War and go their asses handed to them. You sound like yet another ignorant Southern Revisionist. You lost get over it!

 

Kennedy didn't order the Bay of Pigs Invasion. The CIA kept him in the dark. Get your facts straight.

 

sure, but lincoln did not allow it to secede.

 

No where in the Constitution is the right to secede mentioned, and if a state was allowed to secede it would completely nullify the federal government by basically holding it at random every time a state didn't get its way, i.e. the problem with the Articles of Confederation, or the Nullification Crisis in 1821

 

Herbert Hoover inherited the makings of the crisis, though his actions did not help it.

 

Kennedy knew about it, and discussed it at the cabinet level. All the Pentagon and State people gave it a thumbs up. At a State Department meeting attended by Kennedy, only Sen. William Fulbright dissented. McNamara does not give the date of this meeting in his memoir.

The next day (18 April 1961), I went to the Oval Office and said, "Mr. President ... with one exception all of your advisers -- including me -- recommended you proceed..."
Kennedy said, "I'm grateful to you for your willingness to assume part of the responsibility. But I am the president. I did not have to do what all of you recommended. I did it. I am responsible, and I will not try to put part of the blame on you, or Eisenhower, or anyone else."

(Robert McNamara, "In Retrospect", Random House, 1995, pp. 25 - 27)

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Thirteen states, collectively known as "The Confederacy", seceded. Lincoln fought to avenge the firing on the Union flag at Fort Sumter. He also fought to keep the confederate states within the union.
There's just one thing I can't figure. These thirteen states -- who needs them?

 

James Buchanan, because he was president in the follow up of the civil war, and didnt do a thing to stop it.

 

James Buchanan was U.S. President from 1857 to 1861. That's not exactly a 'follow up' to the Civil War.

 

When I was born, Harry Truman was president. I've seen a lot.

You Lincoln haters are quite an extreme bunch. A lot of what you've said is very warped. In fact, in my entire life I've never heard anyone say he was a bad president. The great majority of historians rank him in the top three.

Jimmy Carter was a good president, despite what you may have heard. He got a tremendous amount of bad press when three Special Forces helicopters crashed in a sandstorm in Iran trying to rescue the American hostages. I never understood why he was blamed for that. He had a great many fine ideas, that were shot down by a Congress full of knaves, scoundrels, and idiots. Don't believe me? Go read some old newspapers. It was Congress that failed, not him.

Until G. W. Bush came along, I felt that Nixon was the worst ever. He destroyed an entire generation's trust in government at a time when idealism was high. It has never been the same since. He hated the counter-culture. Not to mention the tens of thousands of American soldiers that died in Vietnam due to his terrible foreign policy.

But without a doubt, George W. Bush was the worst.

 

Just one thing I can't figure about Lincoln. Who in their right mind would want to keep the Confederate states in the Union? They were losers then, and they're losers now. Good riddance!

One more thing. Lincoln supported the draft. The draft is slavery by another name. I went to jail in the U.S. during the Vietnam era (1971) because I rejected military enslavement. So to say Lincoln opposed slavery ignores that little detail.

 

Carter was a victim of bad timing and bad circumstances.

Bush on the other hand came into a strong economy, and in eight short years managed squander the largest budget surplus in history into the worst deficit in history, an embarassment to the Republican party if there ever was one.

Then again, the Bush administration did just what all the Republican administrations seem to do, which is plunder the economy and privatize as many of our resources as possible, so their buddies can make obscene amounts of money at the expense of the rest of us. It's like deja vu all over again. Remember the junk bonds, and the S&L scandal of the late '80's that occurred as a result of the Reagan administration's deregulation? Not that Reagan was anywhere near as bad as bush, I mean at least the guy had charisma and he was a great public speaker, but voters sure seem to have a short memory when it comes to the financial destruction that seems to accompany Republican presidents.

Now the Republican propaganda machine wants to pin the economic downturn Dubya caused on the Obama administration, and the frightening thing is folks are buying it. You can paint a turd any color you like, it's still a turd.

Unfortunately Obama, like Carter, doesn't have much to work with.

 

Not that I like defending Bush but it has to be pointed out anyone who came into office the same thing would've happened, the dot.com bubble was going to burst, and burst violently, and the housing bubble and ensuing banking crisis was both the fault of Clinton and Bush. And around 2003 the Bush administration did in fact try to put more regulation onto Freddie and Fannie but it died in congress, could call it a victim of the Republican congress but neither side was too thrilled on it, the Reps for just less regulation in general and the Dems from back in the Clinton days mindset that home ownership is some kind of god given right and Freddie and Fannie need the power to keep making loans to people who can't pay them back

 

A culture of instant gratification, coupled with usurious interest rates and loan structures designed to result in foreclosures, and you've got a recipe for disaster, regardless of who's president. Of course the disaster doesn't occur until property values drop below their equity value, because then the banks are in trouble, now we've got problems.

I've heard someone blame the push toward financial deregulation on the Carter administration, go figure.

I do know that I've personally experienced a significant downward trend in standard of living during the Bush years that I didn't under Clinton, yet CEO's are making much more than they were eight years ago, why is that?

Let us not forget the unprecedented autocracy of the executive branch under the Bush administration, civil rights violations, illegal spying, not to mention an illegal war, and the loss of our integrity in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Bush has left a scar on this country that may take generations to heal. Of course they'll get away scott free, they always do, since being president is a free pass to do whatever the fuck you want, so long as you don't lie to a grand jury about getting a blow job in the white house.

 

Anyone who doesn't think it was Jimmy Carter simply did not live during his presidency. He was horrible. All of the stats prove it. Lot's of people hate G.W. Bush, but they have no basis for saying he is the worst. Jimmy Carter was much, much worse. We were failing as a country. Unemployment rates in the double digits, 20%+ interest rates, inflation out the you-know-what.

 

Well, I strongly strongly disagree with you, as I said before. I lived during that time and closely followed the news. Name one thing he did that was horrible. He was a good president who had a terrible Congress.

If you think that there is "no basis" for thinking that Bush was the worst, well, I must suggest that you are getting all your news from the unfair and unbalanced news network.

 

william henry harrison was the worst.....he got nothing done....i mean really nothing at all...