making bromo dragonfly solution

ok so basically im expecting 50mg of bromodragonfly from a very res[ectable source but it will come in powder form. im thinking the best thing to do with it considering the dosage range is to dissolve it in ethanol. Would i be right in thinking an approx dose is around 500ug? that would then work out to 100 500ug doses, surely i could then just get a little bottle with a pippette and put the 50mg of bromo in there and drop 100 drops of ethanol in the bottle with the pipette and shake it around to make sure it dissolves. I just thought i would check with you guys. Sorry about any bad spelling or grammer as well!

 

No, I wouldn't recommend using drops as an accurate way of dosing because the volume of each drop can vary quite. You'd be better off measuring a volume of ethanol, say like 100ml, and then measuring out each dose accordingly (Therefore, each .1 ml would have 50 micrograms, or each 1ml would have 500 micrograms). That would be much more accurate and safe, assuming you have a device, such as your pipette, that can measure out such increments of the solution.

Also, you really need to verify your initial weight before dissolving it into the solution. Check to make sure it is exactly 50mg, and if it's not adjust it or adjust your calculations to compensate. Sometimes a vendor will ship more or less of a product, so it's important for you to verify the starting amount.

500 micrograms of bromo dragonfly may or may not be enough for a single dose, or it may be way more than you need. It really depends... it can be variable from person to person, batch to batch. Start low and work your way up to determine whats a good dose for the batch you obtain. Be careful if you are going to be sharing this with other people (please don't pass this off as acid)... it has an extremely long duration of action.

On erowid, you'll see that there were two batches of different strengths a few years ago. I'm not sure how todays current batch compares to those two batches.. so it's hard for me to say exactly how strong your stuff is. Also, you probably don't know which isomer you have (an isolated isomer or racemix) which also complicates things a bit. Unless there is somebody who has recently ordered from the same vendor as you, and can clue you in on the strength of that particular batch. Regardless, though, you really should start low and work your way up to determine the strength on your own.

Good luck, and don't forget to come back and report a bit on it.

 

yeah i think you are right about using ml instead. Do you think if i emailed the vendor and asked them which isomer i have they would know? and even if i did this would that even give me an indication of strength. I dont really understand the chemistry behind it properly so iits hard for me to know. will deff report back with trip report

 

The vendor might be able to tell you. It can't hurt to ask. However, the vendor is most likely not going to be able to give you an indication of strength. Your best bet is to start with low, work your way up and determine the strength on your own. Or, you could possibly find somebody who has recently purchased and ask them for advice.

 

From wikipedia: R-(-)-bromo-DragonFLY is the more active stereoisomer.

you could ask. you probably wouldn't want the S isomer only. if it's R, it will be more potent than racemic (a 50/50 mixture of R and S isomers). still gotta measure your doses though.

 

ah thank you portstock thats put it into simple terms that i understand, well its 50mg for 250 usa dollars from a very reputable canadian source if thats not against the rules? if anyone knows of the vendor and has an idea of strength give me a pm, its unlikely though im sure.

 

i think you should ask the vendor what isomer it is.

if you find out you are getting the R isomer, start even lower than you would have otherwise. if you are getting a racemic mixture, still start low - it shouldn't be a problem to titrate your dose.

 

If you use a medical grade dropper and hold at the proper angle each time you can be fairly accurate.
However , the greater the strength of the solution will determine the + / - accuracy amount.

there is no way to be perfect due to many variables.

lab uses this method at times with weak solutions.

be safe
use a calculator
do not attempt under the influence