When is the psychedelic state possible without drugs?

Discussion in 'Magic Mushrooms' started by CherokeeMist, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    It's funny what you say about kids. My son just turned 3 last month and my girlfriend is currently pregnant. Being a single father for a year of my sons life prevented me from doing so many things. Yet learning how to love again in a new way, reveals so much more than any school, drug, religion, or meditation could ever reveal. It is the act of Nature, perfect, painful, beautiful, and precious. And at the same time, it slips away from you so quickly as your body begins to decay. It's amazing to be able to love.
     
  2. ancient powers

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    As far as a path to enlightenment in this modern age. I believe smoking cannabis daily to protect the mind from the artificial paradise the human race has erected. All this TV, radio, billboards, traffic, etc. are unnatural and humans are evolving from beasts into advanced creatures. Its like when you take san pedro or ayahuasca even MGS or HBWRS. There is the constant revelation of alien intelligence. You will likely encounter this if you partake of these plant medicines. What I have discovered Is that these alien beings exist on the smallest level. They are the first of intelligent life to manifest from the lifespark (GOD) that resides in the center of every atom. They are leading the human race in the direction it is heading. It is called evolution. We are becoming more like GOD by becoming more like them through their behind the scenes participation. But still the beast body like in Brave New World. Fights and becomes depressed to the point of death and disease trying to find balance sacrificed in the name of progress. Sativa helps to discover the balance needed to bridge the two worlds in this dawning of the aquarian age.
     
  3. ancient powers

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    There are two times in a persons life when they experience lifes magic for sure. one is when they fall in love. two is when they're having a psychedelic experience. Having kids, friends and lovers goes with the love part. Unfortunately there is a thin line between love and hate. You need to be careful to always love. You can only change the world and others by changing yourself.
     
  4. Leingod

    Leingod Banned

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    dreams, death, and birth. Also on high doses of marijuanna, alcohol and oxygen loss.
     
  5. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    High doses of alcohol don't produce a psychedelic state, they produce unconsciousness and death. Not exactly a high point of existence.
     
  6. i0-techno

    i0-techno The Magnificent Dope

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    High or low, it is still life. Thoughts are enlightenment. The tears I cried reading this thread is enlightenment, the feelings I feel now, the knowing, wtf I is you and you is I, no matter what, we are one, that is enlightenment.

    At work we have this guide to safety, shit we all do in daily life is enlightenment, but until you know you are doing it the thought of enlightenment doesn't exist, like taking shrooms and bam, I want to find enlightenment always, but the things you saw have always been there, and you have always looked, you just never cared to be aware, but you don't have to try, just be enlightened. (maybe in that respect drugs do not help you to become enlightened)

    Reflect that divine love that reverberates throughout the universe, then think how immense and intense and concentrated a love that must be. All I know is if I know then somebody else knows and so on and so forth, personal or not, words or thoughts, enlightenment encompasses all and I thank God for this thread and the music I am hearing now and the knot that hurt my throat as I read all the truths. One love.

    To the main question, if you want to be psychedelic without drugs then imagine what you are seeing as such, imagine this as I would, I go outside into the sun, I see millions of shades of colors and I imagine what type of chemical composition could this object or whatever you want to call it consist of to react to the light and my eyes at the exact same time to look like that be. Just like you reading this and imagining my fingertips following my brains thought process and seeing that I totally just stumbled while I thought of my brain and now I feel I might be confusing you which is quite a powerful thing to be able to do over the internet, the time it took you to read this and get lost, how can we not be connected? Be a chemist.
     
  7. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    High doses of marijuana may only lead to levels building up to the (but not including the full effects of the) psychedelic experience - but it's a matter for debate. In my mind, high grade marijauana acts as a trigger to the 'compressed' acid flashback. Before experimenting with psychs, marijuana did nothing of the sort. Now I've been on the other side through diethylamide inebriation, it can pose as a key - but only key to the limited; definitely not the vast effects and elevated sensory perception factors of lsd, i.e., without previous psychedelic use, marijuana would not do what it does now., But, even when I notice slight auditory hallucinations reminiscent to those of the acid ride after a good few joints, it cannot compare to 'THE psychedelic experience', it'll always be a compressed repetition or reminder of the fact that I have, on many occassions, tripped the beans.
    Alcohol is the mindkiller, through and through. Only a fool or someone having a laugh would type that..
    I should think you're the latter.
     
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    I dont think it was referred to as bringing a psychedelic state, but rather an experiences of lifes magic.
    And I agree that is can put you in a state of very powerful bliss and opened awareness, but it is a balancing act that next to no one can walk perfectly.
     
  9. i0-techno

    i0-techno The Magnificent Dope

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    Relayer that signature you have reminds me of me the first time I got to whatever plateau I was on with dxm, laying on my bed looking in the corner of my bedroom and thinking that tomorrow doesn't matter, if I die it doesn't matter, and how fucking ok I was with it and still am. Wow what is that called? Is that a psychotic break? HAha
     
  10. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    how come no one has said sensory deprivation yet?
     
  11. I like this. :)
     
  12. ancient powers

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    I agree!
     
  13. i0-techno

    i0-techno The Magnificent Dope

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    i0-techno The Magnificent Dope

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    wake up
     
  15. hawaiiankine

    hawaiiankine Senior Member

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    near death experiences, emotional trauma (loss of family etc) work for me!
    :eek:
     
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