If you were asked to convince a non-believer to convert with a single sentence...

My beliefs probably conform to many diffrent beliefs and probably don't others.

I would probably offend many diffrent people of lots of diffrent beliefs , and probably also not offend many diffrent people of diffrent beliefs.

So you personaly don't need to say one sentence to me to convert me to your belief (whatever that may be).. you would probably like me or not like me for what i believe in. Religeon being only part.



You probably just got too not likeing me for being probably cryptic ?

 

Well... it's not a matter of people liking you...

Do you sin?... if you do, Christians still love you... but acknowledge you as a sinner at the same time as they acknowledge themsleves.

I maybe wrong?.....

But the question wasn't if people would like you... it was: what would make you convert to Christianity.

Love and learning Clairexxxx

 

I sin all the time in the eyes of christians , are my sins unchristian more than likely . In non christian eyes my sins are non sinful so i am alright. If a christian judged my so called sins in a personal manner and ignored how unchristian they may be , they may see that i am unsinful at the end of the day. If they were to purely to judge me with their christian ideals then i would be a realy bad person , what right would they have to accuse me of being sinful if their sins don't fall within actual bad criteria. I don't and will never label myself under a belief system because i will for ever be sinning.Is it sinful that i have had sex before marriage ? I don't believe its a crime or should be a crime under any ideology.thats one of many sins that could and would be leveled at me .

ok i guess no sentence would convert me because fundementaly christian beliefs are only one of many beliefs..they are not right or wrong neither am i. I don't wish to be judged or forgiven for beliefs or/and sins one christian may believe in and another may let me off for.

 

Glad you cleared that up Why not join the debate we're having "Dok and Peppys Mass Debate" on the UK forum?

It's quite interesting and we're discussing sin etc. and I know how much you love discussing things with Dok

Love Clairexxx

 

oh yeah i realy like debating with the nice pleasant dok' we share a great respect for each other and happily swap PMs as too pat each other on the back for a job well done hahaha if you believe that you may believe anything hahahah

ok i will take a look

love and learning matt

 

Religion is the aggressor...
The agnosticism forum is awash with evangelists.
Like hawkers trying to sell a miracle relief.

This has to end...
Thus the war of reason is carried to you

Occam the agnostic ..Invades YOUR forum

As you have been invading agnosticism for ever..
Beause it undermines your reality.

Religion is a house of fiction based on a foundation of sand.

Before you send any more fools out to try and invalidate agnosticiam
Try and show it to be invalid on your own turf.

Religion itself has less validity than agnosticism.

it is a fiction
And always has been...
And occam thinks fictions are usefulll...

No more.

Occam

 

There is no way to show validity in any religion. The purpose of religion is because its what you believe. You have faith in it. I cant speak for the ones who go out into other boards and try to "recruit" people from other threads. (Im not one of them)

Say you are anti religion, do you believe in a god? Whether you do or not im sure you are a part of some group. A person who is agnostic is one who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

But you still have a following. You still have a group, you still have people you talk to about your "non religion." In groups, in threads. Its like a fellowship of faux wanna-be atheists.

Religion: A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. (Acctual definition)

In a way you all meet the definition of religion. Just thought I would give you the heads up on that since you said, "Religion is a house of fiction based on a foundation of sand." And, "Religion itself has less validity than agnosticism."

 

Rayzorrofoccam said:
As you have been invading agnosticism for ever..
Beause it undermines your reality.

Dont know about anyone else, but agnosticism doesnt undermine my faith... what undermines it is suffering, lazy Christians and myself

The reason why Christians come back for more is because it is seen as a duty to bring the gospel to everyone.. therefore any opposition to that is seen as the area they must bring it to... (to all you christians out there, what did JC mean when he said some seed would fall on stoney ground... in fact 3/4 of it would never come to anything...)

anyway i digress... (and into an area i dont necessarily think relates to your post) however those who try to convince you of the validity of faith (in general) must deserve some respect for their attempts, however futile they may be, you may hate to be 'evangelised' to but i think everyone has some dislike of it, yes Christians too, just think of the over zealous sales man at your door! Doesnt mean its not true...

I think what I am saying is that no matter what your opinion of the beliefs of Christianity, it is certainly not something to be hated... To understand that a Christian will not just walk away because their work in bringing you 'the truth' is actually their mission, could help you to brush it off a bit more easily...

This may not please the more evangelical of my brothers and sisters in JC, but then again... who gives a shit!! ha.. a little controversy never hurt anyone!