to all young hippies

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by dojodee, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. OldTroll

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    It was the kids, the hippies, that stopped that that horrible blasphemy that killed over 50,000 Americans and several million Asians!

    Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, and even a couple of scars! Now it’s your turn … I’m tired. Have you (your generation) been in the streets risking jail? Politically correct bullshit is just a waste of everybody’s time at best … you might as well get a haircut, buy a suit, and join the herd.

    Smoking dope, growing hair, not bathing, and wearing flip-flops does NOT make anybody a hippie!



    Have fun, play safely, and remember, peace in not just a word!
     
  2. Guitar

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    You think the hippies stopped the vietnam war? I'm sure it put a lot of pressure on the gov't , but hippies didn't end the war. There was a lot more factors.
     
  3. OldTroll

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    Mr. Guitar - - I served in the U.S. military from 1952 until 1972. That includes the war in Korea and the horror of Viet Nam. I also spent time on the Haight in '69. (the main street in the Haight-Ashbury district of San Francisco - running up from the top of the park)

    I will not argue abut the Viet Nam blasphemy with you or anybody else, but I assure your that I know a hell of a lot more about it than a person who was born 15 years after it was over. There were many factors, but the kids were the primary source of the pressure that made the suits pay attention and end our involvement. They were tired of seeing their friends come back with missing body parts, or missing emotions, or coming home in a box.

    You may have 4 years of college and have read many books about 'Nam ... but I lived it, then later did the college bit, read a lot of books, and presently have 32.5 feet of shelf space that is entirely filled with books dealing with the Viet Nam war. (I just now measured, 10 shelves of 39 inches each)



    Be the first one on your block To have your boy come home in a box.
    Country Joe & the Fish, Woodstock - White Lake, N.Y. 1969
     
  4. shivatronica

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    Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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    im sure olhipies will help us to MAKE HISTORY AGAIN! PEACE!
     
  5. zombie.

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    Dude you guys are pathedic. The kid is trying to do something good, and comments like Oldtroll's is what makes people lose hope in anything great. "Cut your hair and join the rest"? Fuck you man. How can you say that? You might as well run for president.

    I say do what you think is going to justify the purpose. Anything. Sit at home and listen to some music, hang at the park, clean shit up at the park, do a drum circle, whatever man. You've got some creativity right? Use it.
     
  6. OldTroll

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    This old hippie won't help anybody make history again!

    I spent 20 years wearing a uniform trying to make history.
    Then I spent 20 more years with a ponytail trying to make history.
    And for the past 10+ years I've been retired from trying to make history.

    Now I see in the newspapers that our invasion of Iraq has over 4,100 American deaths with about 30,000 wounded! And there will likely be more kids coming home in a box before the suits decide to call it quits!

    Smoking dope and listening to music and saying cool things like, "Peace, man" won't do a hell of a lot to stop those kids from dying in the fucking desert! If the current generation is not willing to actively try to stop the killing, then y'all might as well get haircuts and buy neckties .... and the dying will continue!


    My apologies to dojodee for taking your thread off topic. No more from me on this thread except Woodstock.

    Edit: My apologies to dojodee. I really meant to not continue OT, but I slipped up in post #28.
     
  7. Jessithehippie

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    hey hehe i think that is a great idea but we take inspiration from the past have an imagination and build a creation that flies up like the sunrise and bring the family of love light peace and happiness together again :D
     
  8. OldTroll

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    I only hope that 40 years from now all you kids will be able to look back and think, "I did it the right way. I'm happy with my past actions."



    Have fun, play safely, and follow your conscience!
     
  9. drumminmama

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    will anyone step up and do what old troll is suggesting? who has been to jail for justice?
    I have, twice.
     
  10. OldTroll

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    Hangin' on my wall!​
     
  11. Guitar

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    Hey man , I didn't mean to come off as attacking you if thats the way it seemed, and I know your a lot older than me and more experienced, but that also doesn't mean you have to act arrogant. From your post, it seems like we are in agreement anyways, all I said was there were many other factors. They would've ended the war a lot sooner if protests effected the war that much.
     
  12. OldTroll

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    As I said, I will not argue Viet Nam with young'uns.

    :cheers2:
     
  13. Mother's Love

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    the only way to bring back a semblance of woodstock is to create an UNDERGROUND movement. you'd have to invite people who ooze lovey doveyness, and set serious rules as to who gets to be invited. no mainstream musicians, only locals, or even better have everyone show up with a guitar and some bongos.

    it could be done, but even success would pale in comparison to the original.
     
  14. drumminmama

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    I think you have to put woodstock in perspective: it was a culmination of folks trying something different than what was the norm at the time.
    The concert didn't create the freaks, the freaks created the space for the concert to be.

    If we pulled off anything like it, well, read the 'roo bash threads: you'd get the same complaints, deserved or no.
     
  15. Guitar

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    Yep it just wouldn't work. It was a different era.
     
  16. hippiepeece

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    Who the hell are you calling 'dump'? especially when you can't even spell it right. I'm thinking you meant dumb. Right?


    and it's funny that your just going to post insulting replies without even bothering to use some proper english speaking.

    And i like how you ended with peace that really takes the freakin cake... since you're creating the exact opposite of peace.

    And the "HIPPIES ARE NO MORE!" part is untrue. I'm still here.

    So you can either continue basking in your blissful stupidity or become a productive member of the human race.

    And remember to always keep on rockin' in the free world!

    Peace and Love always
     
  17. Asmodean

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    He probably means the hippie movement is no more. That's right, it has evolved. Of course there's still the occasional hippie around.
     
  18. Indica.Skye

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    why argue about it? some people say there are hippies, some say there aren't. none of you have the real authority to say the other is wrong. so who gives a shit? go on believing whatever you want to believe. that's the hippie way, isn't it?
     
  19. OldTroll

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    Labels and labeling are pretty much a waste of time IMO.


    Om Muni Muni
    Mahāmuni
    Śākyamuni
    Svāhā
     
  20. Asmodean

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    Only because most people can't handle lables on people. They have such a hard time looking past the label it's causes them to stereotype the people with that lable. Just like in musicgenres, they do have their use if you use them in the right perspective.

    It's out of question of course that there are still hippies, they are around. But from what I see they aren't in a movement really. They're just living and most of the time are pretty nostalgic. Also the new ones, you know, the ones saying they were born decades too late. They don't get the point.
    Then you have lots of people that are trying to help the world make a better place, which aren't necessarily hippies. This is what I ment with that the hippies have evolved: they have the same ideas and the motivation, but they don't linger in the past and generally also don't look like the stereotypical hippie. They generally don't call themselves hippie I think and they are more interested in the present problems and future then in the hippie movement of the past. They aren't waiting for a revolution, but are in organisations that try to make a change. Just my observations.
     

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