Economic collapse immanent?

The government, believe it or not, is going to be with us till the very very turning through to an agriculture community,,


the vibration of peace and love needs to be raisen~~
and you can thank churches for such a thing, truly.

there will be great conscious awakenings of peace and opening of heart,,
it takes one word,,,, America



beyond all the ideas of being scared, it takes a simple simple simple seed of some good wisdom to enlighten a region*

and, worsttt case, it takes a pot of soup to feed a community~* =)



i say, plant gardens, plant gardens!!
you can be the ones who build for your community potlucks meals,
dont be afraid to be a leader, to speak for G-d, and peace, and community IF it intensifies at all.

 

................. I know this was not directed to me.. but as one of the originals from back in the day.. living it, I'd like to address it.. Most of the Hippies that I knew in The Haight (the city).. the majority of them came from middle/uppermiddle class homes, quiet a few had rich parents and there were many from dirt poor homes.. What I observed and partisapaited in and how the hippies survived was Welfare Mothers/Food Stamps.. We fed and housed the masses..We used what was availble to us.. we got our clothes at the free store and thrift shops.. and did a lot of trading.. in the city, most of the $$ came from drug money.. I didn't see many calling 'home' for $$.... My parents we quiet comfortable but not what you call rich.. but if I needed $$ they would have sent it to me, I didn't ask.. I did ask for a plane ticket once in a while but airfare from SF to LA was 20 bucks back then.. most of the hippies I knew, pooled their resources and bought land to build their homesteads/communes on.. Most of those places have dissapered over the decades.. a few still remain, but are not like they were when it all began.. Seems to me the ones that went off on their own were more sucessfull at retaining their land then the communes.. so many ppl comimg and going all the time.. no real security unless you were on the deed... Ppl took advantage of us.. Most of us wanted out of the city... too much violence.. We wanted to be free of the Machine.. some folks got loans from their parents to buy land or inhierited it.. others sold drugs to get enough $$ to buy land.. some used their skills and made products.. look at Bill Gates.. and use that to purchace land.. Some even got jobs and earned the $$ for land.. like me n my husband did... it is not unhippy to work, it depends what kind of work you do.. living off the land is extreamly hard work.. and you need $$ in this present time also, even if your off the grid there are still taxes. There are still things that you need $$ for.. I cannot make salt and no one around here makes salt so I have to buy/barter for salt.. I have tomatoes to trade.. since salt is mostly found in the desert (Ithink) and tomatoes don't gorw in the desert it would be an honest and even trade ( love salt on my tomatoes).. when money bc obsolete there will only be bater n trade availble.. that's what we wanted and that is how it is looking to be in our future... Me n Lynn are living off SSD and it pays for most of the bills.. but when that is gone we will and can survive on what we can produce ourselves.. When we get wind power we will be better off.

 

Most folks in the US can get on the interent if they choose to....heck I borrowed a stranger's laptop in a bus station to check on something. Outside the US, lots of folks already have it really hard & might not have experienced having electricity in their town, let alone internet.

On concentration camps....I've heard rumors about them for years, but never seen evidence of the masses being rounded up. The concentration camps for hippies rumor goes back to the sixties and they've never done it, tho some out the out-spoken hip have met questionable fates.

On the other hand, the reality is that the US government can put various levels of martial law into effect at anytime & they can simply imprison people in their own homes if that's what they feel is best for the nation.

 

google tent cities in america. yes folks are experiencing hard times already.. truth is the real unemployment rate right now is 11% not 6%. google that as well..

as far as concentration camps,ive been told my whole life that all schools built since WW2 in america are built so that they can be used as detention centers.. if you look at schools and think about it its probably true.. so the whole secret fema camp thing to me is irrelevant..

do they have plans in place to round up civilians and detain them? yes they do. google operation garden plot and rex 84. both plans have been updated and are still the governments plan of action should they see the need to implement them..

will it get bad enough that something like that happens?? lets hope and pray not. one things for sure hard times are ahead and the government is preparing the masses for something major within the next 6 months.google that to.

 

I've read rex 84, garden plot seen the camps online this and many sites that coinside with Fema camps and NWO.. and about the ET aliens that inhabit the earth.. the plan.. the conspiricies.. and Black Elks prophecy.. plus what my father taught me, who worked for the space program for 18 yrs.. I don't find it necessary to debate, argue or demand proof... as there is already so much proof out there........ I see things bc I am not blocked off from them.. I have not been brainwashed by our government..... with all this evidence in our faces.... how can we deny it any longer.. ...The gov doesn't deny that they are doing the camps..... WHO's asking..everyone that has come forth is dead.. ..my father included........ I been saying the same thing for 37 yrs.. We are under attack by our own government.. I have been called every name in the book, scoffed at and simply ignored.. I stopped talking about it.. let them find out for themselves if they don't want to listen..... But here it is again, I can't forgetaboutit.. I can forget what I have know all my life..... I believe in GOD and not afraid to say it.. GOD GOD GOD.. I also know that if there is a holy one then there is also unholy ones.. Unholy meaning Evil oppossed to Good... I can't say what others feel.. I can only know my own self and what I see and believe are not fairy tales, drug induced hallusinations or uninformed information... I myself was in one of these camps. when I was thirteen and again when I was fourteen.. I was placed in this camp bc I didn't go along with "their' porgram, as in brainwashing the kids in schools. I refused to OBEY their rules and was imprisoned for it.. my case was the very first represented by a lawyer, as a minor I had no rights at that time.. I was railroaded into this camp.. and they tried to murder me. They infected my with hepititus and left me to die in their infirmery.. They would not let my parent visit me, nor did anyone come into my quarienteened room except to bring meals which I couldn't eat.. My father was furious and got one of his friends that was a lawyer to take my case.. No minor at that time had ever had represention.. The lawyer got a rit to move me to the hospital as by then I was comatose.. I spent 52 days in a coma and weighed 74 lbs when I woke up.. after my recovery I went to court..My case set a presidence in Orange County California.. 1964.. I won my case and was released into the custody of my parents with their promise not to SUE the state. My father's job was on the line so he agreed under duress.. This is what can happen to anyone be them child or adult that does not agree to the government rule.. I would also like to say that they did experiments on me.. they hooked me up to their brain machine and tried to brainwash me they went up into my virgina even.. but they failed.. Their machine was like a computer and they had wires attached to my head that they feed electrical impluses to.. some were very painfull.. I believe that they couldn't brain wash me bc I had already taken LSD-25 several times and was immune bc of my faith in GOD...... I have never told this account before bc no one would believe me and I didn't want to make trouble for my family.. But as time is short and I doupt if They will be coming for me bc for my claims.. I cannot really harm them.. I can only say my experience and what I know to be the TRUTH.. You don't have to belive me.. it's up to you to decide for yourself as it was for me to decide for myself.. With the collapes of our economy and the whole world in turmoil and our troops deployed to other countries.. This would be the perfect time for envasion.. by whom is the question.

 

they dont have to invade.. when they say the time is right the united nations forces can now legally enter our country and serve along side our military and private security firms to restore order and "maintain peace"..

and it will happen..

"Today Americans would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their World Government."
Henry Kissinger- at 5/21/92 Bilderberg Conference in Evian, France

 

Yes.. more like they crawl out from under their rocks and out of the woodwork and just appear.. I noticed when Katrenia hit.. that they had Mexican, and other uniformed ppl that was not american uniforms policing the area.. Why were Mexican uniforms in Lousiana toting weapons. I SAW THEM MY SELF..we live very close to La. and were visiting some family in Bay City very close to Houston.. We saw the truckloads of them being deployed to La. American trucks carrying mexican troops. What is that about..well you don't have to answer that.. it speaks for itself.

 

I still say that the powers that be won't have to imprison the bulk of US citizens. Seriously, think about it...if they want to close a city all they have to do is issue chemical attack warnings and remind people about their safety prep training (stay inside your home, cover all your windows & doors with plastic & duct tape). Most people will do it out of fear & programming. They will likely round up the people who don't listen but why should the powers stir up suspicion if they don't have to? Even my dad, who claims that our government could never pull off a major conspiracy movie due to incompetance, would be very suspicous if I were to be suddenly imprisoned.

I'm not saying that it isn't gonna get nutty out there but psychological warfare is far more dangerous than physical warfare, costs less & has longer lasting results too.

 

All they have to do is (feed) any imformation to the media they want and if it's on CNN/GMA then it has to be true, right? They do control the masses through TV and they would just simply tell ppl that there is a national emergency, weather it be true or false and most of the nation would believe it and do whatever they were told to do... and this new Digital TV "Box" that is government issue that you will have to have installed before you can get programming.. is that a transmitter as well as a reciver.... I'm not paranoid, there's nothing I can do except prepare for it and hold on to my faith that there will be some rescue from whatever it is we are facing and from whatever source Creator sends.... but I do think about things that I read and see "The Writing On The Wall".. and if I am thinking about it so must other ppl... I know I am not alone..

 

why do you think that is?
nothing being left here...

i mean, with prophets and ,, and such power... that the leaders have,,

i'd swear they would wish to make this earth into a beautiful place, collectively

 

I don't think the message was to scare anyone.. but to open eyes and hearts to what is transpiring so that they may prepare for it the best way they can.. Knowledge is the best defense.. Arm yourself with knowledge ( and a rifle or two) and be ready when the time comes.