Am I going crazy???

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by shivo, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. Face Eater

    Face Eater Banned

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    I really feel for you and I wish there was something more that I could do. Don't read too much of what we wrote or think about it too much. We have thought about these things too much.

    Just be brave, no matter what is going on in your head, life will go on, the world will not end and there is really nothing to be afraid off. Don't ignore this feeling, but don't pay it too much attention. You can get through it and it probably wont last for too long.
     
  2. Face Eater

    Face Eater Banned

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    But you only partially create your own reality. Ultimately, If the world is fucked then the world is fucked. I refuse to see a positive in having chronic fatigue disorder and constant feelings of sickness, yet life goes on and I do what I have to do. I think its possible to live life and be real at the same time. I'm not going to call and Apple an orange or an ugly thing beautiful. Do what works for you, but its just not my thing.
     
  3. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    ok, if you read back, I said "to me"the biggest help is blah blah blah

    I'm glad you found help for yourself. I have a friend who also suffers throm the same thing....he is 50 years old and balances his with yoga and meditation. It's something he has, he has accepted it and finds what works.

    You and I have had different reasons that we have gone to the doc. Mine was a matter of feeling like I was an unworthy human being and should die. So for me.....coming to grips with the fact that I am NOT my thoughts.....helped hugely.
     
  4. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Are you going crazy ? I don't know.
    You do also think you're Kurt Cobain's reincarnation, so yeah...
     
  5. shivo

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    :D.yeah,I forgot to say,that with this filling his songs are always in my head....
     
  6. snake_grass

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    see you on the darkside

    no jk

    hope you have fun trying to get over there to the other side

    of being happy

    when you can calm your self down on to one side

    implode?
     
  7. shivo

    shivo Member

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    Inside i am happy,outside i feel bad...i dont know what to think,Im afraid of my thoughts....
     
  8. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    CBT has been shown to be very effective, intelligent or not. It is the cutting edge in psychotherapy, and is making a comeback in the face of 'medication management'

    Its not about deceiving yourself about the true nature of reality, it is about recognizing negative patterns in your life and systematically changing your response to stimuli and thoughts.

    There was a philosopher named William James who theorized that emotion follows behavior, not the other way around.

    For example if you see something like a bear, you will start to run as a physical response, in this case 'fight or flight'

    And because you are running, then you become afraid. You are afraid because you run, not you run because you are afraid. Which is what most people think.

    This is from wikipedia:

    James-Lange theory


    William James in the article 'What is an Emotion?' (Mind, 9, 1884: 188-205) argued that emotional experience is largely due to the experience of bodily changes. These changes might be visceral, postural, or facially expressive. Danish psychologist Carl Lange also proposed a similar theory at around the same time and thus the resulting position is known as the James-Lange theory. This theory and its derivates state that a changed situation leads to a changed bodily state. As James says 'the perception of bodily changes as they occur IS the emotion.' James further claims that 'we feel sorry because we cry, angry because we strike, afraid because we tremble, and not that we cry, strike, or tremble, because we are sorry, angry, or fearful, as the case may be.'


    This theory is supported by experiments in which by manipulating the bodily state, a desired emotion is induced.[6] Such experiments also have therapeutic implications (e.g. in laughter therapy, dance therapy). The James-Lange theory is often misunderstood because it seems counter-intuitive. Most people believe that emotions give rise to emotion-specific actions: i.e. "I'm crying because I'm sad," or "I ran away because I was scared." The James-Lange theory, conversely, asserts that first we react to a situation (running away and crying happen before the emotion), and then we interpret our actions into an emotional response. In this way, emotions serve to explain and organize our own actions to us.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion


    So what this means is that if you are angry or stressed, and you go punch a punching bag, it will actually increase aggressive emotion.

    If you speak or act negatively, just even out of boredom or habit, you will begin to feel negatively.

    That is the principle behind CBT.
     
  9. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    Shivo, you aren't crazy, and don't try to compare your experiences to theories put out by western psychology, because frankly, the majority of it is bullshit.
     
  10. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I agree, but it can still provide insights.

    The problem comes when people cant think of things outside of that framework.
     
  11. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    I would go see a therapist if I were in your psotion. It sounds like you either need advice or reassurance that you are 'normal'.
     
  12. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    She sounds like an awesome person.
     
  13. Kizen

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    just twist your body round like this
     
  14. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I'm sorry, but I don't think you're Kurt Cobain's reincarnation :( :( :(
     
  15. shivo

    shivo Member

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    neither i do...:(

    i was just thinking that i understand him so much,and his songs are so deep in my brain...but anyway,i dont believe in reincarnation...
     
  16. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    How old are you ?
     
  17. shivo

    shivo Member

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    Im 14 years old .....:rolleyes:
     
  18. Piaf

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    Okay, good. Cause I misunderstood you when you said : I think I'm Kurt Cobain's reincarnation :rolleyes:
    I'm glad we got that clear :)

    And you're 14. Relax, you're not that crazy, you're just being a typical teenager.
     
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