has ne1 ever had any experience with this compund or know nething about it? i cant seem to find nething about it and a source jus got some. any help appreciated :cheers2:
hmmm. i cant seem to find any info on this either. looks like Shulgin never made this one. i guess if you want you can be the first to give your report on it. because it is virtually unknown make sure you start at a very small dose and work your way up. looking forward to hearing about it.
Well, Even though Most if not any had produced the 4-ACO analog of DPT, remember that in most cases the 4-ACO usually metabolizes into the 4-HO within the realm of the brain barrier. SO with that in mind that 4-HO-DPT was not active in trials that Shulgin had or any other for that matter. Good luck if you do proceed. This is just an opinion from references of other ACO compounds compared with HO compounds
Yes, this is what I was thinking as well. I assumed 4-aco-dpt would be inactive since there are no reports of activity from 4-ho-dpt... but I'm not entirely convinced. There are noticeable differences in effects and duration between 4-ho-dmt and 4-aco-dmt (for example), which possibly suggests there is more going on then 4-aco-dmt being converted to 4-ho-dmt in the body... possibly. It's all speculation as far as I'm aware. So possibly 4-aco-dpt could show some activity when 4-ho-dpt has not... but I doubt it at this point. Dynamickid: Are you aware of any trials with 4-ho-dpt beyond the tihkal entry (It seems so from your post)? Have there been trials in which they tried higher dosages? Shulgin only took the compound to 20mg... maybe thats not enough material to break threshold? He mentions that 4-ho-dpt is extremely hard to make, which I'm assuming is part of the reason why he didn't continue trials with higher dosages.
No I am not, and this quest has plagued us over the many years. Many other forums have have had the same quest for the answer if 4-ho-dpt is active over the levels Shulgin displayed. I wish I could say that I have had a personal observation of the two different structures myself. I have never had any 4-Aco compounds do make a true correlation. What we should do is get a solid individual that is proficient in Mycology and introduce the DPT onto the mycelium of a psyclocibin strain and by way of nature we have 4-ho-dpt so that we could have large quantities to have a true study of activity levels. I wish the Hive was still around they had alot of good information on this aspect of the subject matter.
