My adventure with DXM and Dramamine

They're pretty much the same thing dude. The only difference is that diphenhydramine is twice as potent as dimenhydrinate, so 25mg of benadryl is equal to 50mg of dramamine. The nature of the hallucinations also has a couple of differences, based on what I've heard.

A couple of my benadryl trips, usually the smaller doses, were VERY drowsy and I fell asleep quickly, but the others were so insane that it was impossible to fall asleep.

 

you have pretty clearly never done diphenhydramine, i would never call it a "great" trip. other words like fucking scary come to mind

 

I never though it was exactly "scary" but it definitely wasnt comforting. I did the dxm and dramamine with the intenet of having delirium and it met my expectations. I got actual delirium as opposed to when I took high ammounts of benadryl, which at the most only led to the "cobweb hallucinations."

 

You obviously didn't take a high enough dose of benadryl or you just didn't realize you were as fukt up as you were, because everything seems so real that it's hard to realize how fukt up you actually are.

I once ate 16 benadryls with 50-75mg of 2ce and 15mg of xanax, along with a few handfuls of other pills and a pint of bacardi. That was one of the most fukt up and crazy nights of my life, and it was fun as fuck. haha

 

The first time I did benadryl, I ended up taking 40 pills. Not at once but I took 20 then I ended up taking 20 more a couple hours later. After that, I decided to lower my recreational benadryl doses. But even at 40 pills, the most I got were the audio hallucinations. No visuals whatsoever. I know you're probably gonna say "Well maybe you were so fucked up, you didn't know if you were seeing things or not." Trust me, I knew.

On the other hand, with dramamine, the visuals were obvious. I was hearing voices, talking to my cat, smoking imaginary cigarettes (which felt extremely real. I would be smoking, flicking the ashes and everything, and then the cigarette would just disappear), and at one point I imagined I was riding in a car with my mom before realizing that I was still sitting at my computer, talking to the wall (who I guess I thought was my mom). lol

 

Dramamine is basically diphenhydramine with the stimulant8-chlorotheophylline to reduce drowsiness.

I guess I'll have to try Benadryl again in a larger dose.

EDIT: Last time I tried Benadryl, all I experienced were feelings and sounds of light ocean waves on my body.

 

I'm guessing you were alone when you did benadryl.

Dude....you didn't know how fukt up you were. Trust ME. haha I never realized how fukt up I was on benadryl unless I had people around me telling me that I was talking to people who didn't exist and that there weren't actually teddy bears standing up and walking across shelves in the house. haha It's the same shit, with only a single molecular difference, making the benadryl twice as potent as dramamine.

 

I was alone for both the benadryl and the dramamine. But even so, I know I wasn't that fucked up. Whatever "visuals" I might have had with the benadryl were pretty boring. In fact the only interesting one was the deer head mounted on my wall appeared to be moving. But other than that nothing. I didn't see imaginary people, didn't see the legendary spiders. Nothing except hearing voices, the deer head moving slightly and the cobweb hallucinations (I think thats what they're called. The shit you see at the beginning of the trip, it looks like white cobwebs floating over stuff.)

I know you may think I didn't know I was that fucked up, but trust me, I knew. I never experienced any real delirium aside from what I mentioned. The most that happened was those thing, my eyes got dilated and I felt like I weighed a ton.

But maybe the dramamine worked better because I had did it with DXM.

 

The thing about Anticholinergics is that it makes you delirious. You really don't know at one point you start tripping....everything, the entire time, seems real. It's easy to assume that you are perfectly normal while you are smoking imaginary cigs and talking to imaginary relatives, all while thinking it's all REAL. It makes you delirious.

One of the reasons why I never understood while people care to use them....I don't want to know what it's feel like to be insane...it doesn't interest me.

 

All true. I remember when my mom woke up and found me fukt up as hell on 31 benadryls a few years ago, I told her that we needed to clean the Jello off the floor before it stained and she looked at me and said "Brian....there is no Jello on the floor". hahaha

I always describe the experience as "voluntary schizophrenia". lol

 

Seriously...

Dimethyltryptamine is all I can say. None of you know what REAL visuals are until you have tried Ayahuasca/DMT or 5-meo-dmt. Especially, the 5-meo-dmt. 10 minutes is it. And you leave this planet/dimension. Even very good quality LSD doesn't even scratch the surface of a DMT experience. It changed my life forever...

Although, it may be a little too much for some of you. I know it was for me. I thought I was dying. But that's because I was dying. Then, I was reborn....

If you want a REAL Psychedelic experience, then eat 3 grams of MAOI... wait 30 minutes... then drink a shot of Ayahuasca Brew. Or sit down somewhere comfy and pull 3-5 hits of some 5-meo-dmt and hold that shit in as long as possible. When you get back into this plane of existence, then you guys can tell me about "visuals".

Get off the OTC stuff, guys. I mean, c'mon. All of you are better than this. You really are.

 

hahaha dude.....don't talk to me like I don't know what it's like to experience an EXTREMELY powerful psychedelic trip. I'm sure it's nothing like a DMT breakthrough, but 63mg of 2ce is plenty powerful and had me flying through hyperspace for quite a few hours, even causing white-outs and complete ego death. I became electricity, at one point. haha

It's beside the point though, as this thread is about DXM and deleriants. Though you can handle a DMT trip, it takes a different type of person to go through a powerful deleriant "trip" and come back to it again and again. Every drug is worth doing, at least once, so don't get all high and mighty on us dude.

 

hahaha lol. ok, topnotch. calm yourself, my friend. i can see how my last post may have come off as high and mighty.... not my intention whatsoever.

and i definitely agree with the power of 2-ce.... it is a force to be reckoned with.

as for the whole "every drug is worth doing" thing, i have to disagree. that seems to be a matter of perception and opinion. that does not make it wrong, tho. just an idea that differs from person to person.

I have done my fair share of drugs that make you "delirious", as well. i was just simply stating that since my experiences with dmt/5-meo-dmt, i have never reverted to an OTC drug to try and induce visuals.

i'm not being high and mighty, man, i swear to it. it's not who i am...

and i can also see how my post was not really relevant.... but i saw the word visuals coming from someone who ingested dramamine and i immediately felt the need to explain what REAL VISUALS are. the effects i experienced from dramamine were more along the lines of "hallucinations".
visuals and hallucinations are two different things to me.

:cheers2:

 

It's cool dude. My only point is that people who want to "trip" on benadryl/dramamine aren't looking for a psychedelic experience; they're just trying to experience some crazy shit. haha Well, maybe the uneducated people who eat benadryl/dramamine are looking for a psychedelic experience, but the people who are trying to experience insanity and have done their research are getting exactly what they are looking for when they ingest high levels of benadryl/dramamine.

Deleriants aren't fun at all, but I am VERY thankful for having experienced delerium, at least a few times, because it's just amazing to know what it's like for your mind to be that twisted and delusional, only to snap back to "normal" a few hours later.

I definitely think every drug, including OTC deleriants, are worth experiencing at least one time because, if nothing else, it will allow you to know what it's like to be utterly insane for a few hours. lol It may even make a person appreciate sobriety a little more. haha

 

Maybe its just me but does anyone else who has been on high amounts of dxm notice that stuff on tv looks like cartoons? Like on 1000 - 2000 mgs I notice that even if im watching a live action movie, everything just kind of happens super fast and all the characters look like they're animated.

House of 1000 Corpses on 1000 mgs and up is a complete mindfuck. Other horror movies on dxm or during the afterglow have been a mixed experience for me. Sometimes I like it, other times I get disturbed watching PG rated movies. Lol.

 

2000mg of DXM?

Jesus.

0_o;;

 

That is definetely approaching suicidal dosage.

 

Exactly my point, people have died with less I believe.

 

It was defintely a very intense and poweful experience. I couldn't really do much, so I just sat in my room in the dark and got some very intense visuals. When I walked, I got robo walk but it wasn't as bad as you'd think someone would be on 2000 mgs. In fact, on lower doses, I've had worse robo walks. I often wonder if it's the method you take it. Like if I do Zicam, it comes up very fast and I don't get robo walk. Yet if I do the robo gels, even if its at a dose less than what I do for Zicam, I get robo walk and the trip seems more intense.

Example: 40 robo gels which equals to 600 mgs actually feels more intense to me than 2 bottles of Zicam which equals to 1080 mgs. Sounds weird but its true.

 

Is Zicam just DXM HBr only?