BIG mistake.

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by TheMagicalMushy, Aug 15, 2004.

  1. cexshun

    cexshun Member

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    Well, salvia is NOT about to become illegal. People have been saying this for 3 years now, and still no movement by the DEA. Despite what people think, the DEA does do thorough testing on substances before scheduling it. The Synthetic Substances fans (2c-i) would have you believe otherwise though :).

    So, running out to try salvia when you're not ready is what's going to get salvia banned. Look at it this way:
    You start tripping really bad.
    You stumble into the living room where your parents are sitting.
    You mumble incoherantly and your parents freak not knowing what your on.
    Parents call police and see the salvia order on their CC.
    Police call DEA, DEA finds lots of kids are doing this get get a cheap, legal high.
    DEA emergency schedules salvia while research is done instead of letting us learn from it while research is being done.

    See. You think you're ready, but you're not. Hell, when I was 14, I thought I was mature enough to vote, drink, smoke, etc. Now that I'm 24, I realise I was just a stupid ass punk. If you're afraid of trying it, you are not ready. You will have a bad experience.
     
  2. sugarmaggie

    sugarmaggie ~Green Eyed Devil~

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    I have never viewed life the same after that first salvia trip. This is a drug to be respected, otherwise it'll kick you in the ass. I was convinced by the entity talking to me that my life had all been lies..and nothing was or had been what it appeared to be. I remember so desperately wanting to keep living..but utterly felt they were telling me the truth..such a helpless feeling. I went into my salvia trip not knowing what to expect..kinda like "here, try this shit" sorta thing. You are completely unaware of your surroundings...I was floating in free space. Be sure you have a responsible sitter. It's best to dim your lights..and have some nice music play..(pink floyd, comfortably numb is my preference, enigma and enya are also good). Most importantly, remember..this is no recreational drug. It is for meditation and spiritual learning and growth..I saw things that I'm convinced now are there..we just can't see them. Just relax, and have an environment with good vibes, you should be fine. Just enjoy the ride...it's one you'll not soon forget.
     
  3. cexshun

    cexshun Member

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    Maggie, my first experience was very similar to yours. I was told everything in existance was a lie, and this was the true existance. I was freaking, desparately trying to reach the real world again. My sitter eventually had to pin me to the bed as I was trying to break down the front door of the house while trying to escape back to reality.
     
  4. sugarmaggie

    sugarmaggie ~Green Eyed Devil~

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    What Cexshun says is right..if you're scared and unready..you will have a bad experience..this is most likely inevitable.

    Cexshun..I know that was no fun. I actually thought I saw my sitter repeating to me over and over again, just listen to them, listen to the voices, for they are what's real. I just knew at that point life was over. When I came back, I was hugged up on my living room chair crying like a baby. I had a really hard time going to sleep that night in fear of never waking up to what I thought was real existence. This was very very real to me, and it affected me in so many ways. I have talked to other people, and read experiences of others online, and it's just strange to me that they can be so similar. Almost makes you feel as if you know something other people don't huh. I would like to experiment with it more....see where it takes me.
     
  5. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Salvia is an incredible plant. Yes, I said plant; not drug.

    Psychoactive? Yes.
    Plant? Yes.
    Drug? Nope. Don't think so.

    Drugs are use irresponsibly every day. They greatly affect society, one way or another.

    Salvia is something very different.

    I believe that in order to have an enjoyable salvia trip, you must be ready to die.

    Of course you won't (unless you do it on the roof of a building without a sitter or something), but you must be ready to have every piece of your existance stripped away and never returned; salvia trips are that intense.
     
  6. TelimTor

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  7. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    That being said, oxygen is also a drug.

    So is nitrogen.

    And carbon dioxide.

    Look up the definition of drug, and it will confirm this.
     
  8. yogi for peace

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    To the original poster:

    I'd suggest getting some 5x and keeping the 20x later to see if you want to go further into the experience OR you can send it to me. =)

    I suggest meditation beforehand. And giving thanks for the opportunity for knowledge -- be open with your whole being.
     
  9. RoBoWaLkEr

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    Quit Being A Pussy!! Smoke It!!! Smoke It All!!! You'll Love It It'll Be The Funnest Thing Ever! Funner Than Benedryl And Nutmeg combined!!
     
  10. Shroomp

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    Mushy if i were you id just take a small hit, like 1/8th of a gram (since its 20x), smoke it in a comfy place (try ur bedroom) and have a good mate as a sitter, and you should be fine, good luck have fun dude
     
  11. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    I d smoke some less potent if you want to try it and then save it as someone else said to use later. dont abuse it. Save it till you know you are ready to experience it
     
  12. SouthBoundSoulShine

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    ya if i was u i would try a tinyy tiny bit. then i would put it away for a long time and start readin up on it. i dont know much about it but i know from my freinds its alll in the mindset and u wont regret saving it u will only thank yourself later. i would also suggest start fuckin around with shrooms and other hallucinigions. i would try to get as many different trips as i could off as many different drugs as i could.
     
  13. BradinTheGreat

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    I know you probably hate all these people telling you to hold on to it, but that's what I would've said myself. I personally think you were foolish for using your parents credit card to buy it. What's gonna happen when your parents get the cc bill? Good luck dude, you'll need it. I've never tripped on this stuff, but from what I hear it's really powerful. Just like other drugs you gotta be sure your in the right mind set or it can really fuck with your head.
     
  14. yemforbin

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    notice how the majority of the people telling you to just "go ahead and do it" without any warning are fairly young. the older people are all cautioning you to wait. i think there's something to be said for this. you may think they're just getting all parenty, but maybe you should take some advice from them. i'm 19 and i know i'm still very young. i can't imagine how much i could have messed up my natural developpement if i'd done half the things i was curious about back then. wait a few years and then do all the experimenting you want. that being said, whatever you decide to do, make sure you know as much as you can about what it is you're doing. if you can't recite and follow the 4 rules of erowid without looking them up, you're not ready. :)
     
  15. BradinTheGreat

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    How'd it go? What happend? I know this thread has been dead for a while, but I've been curious about how everything went.

    Peace Bro
     

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