MS Contin or OxyContin?

Just because you couldn't control yourself on opiates doesn't mean they aren't "good drugs." I would much rather be in opiate bliss then watching walls melt or laughing and getting hungry and going to sleep. Different drugs react different with people, that doesn't make one drug better then the other.

Opiates are a wonder drug for many, many people. If you can limit yourself, they are one of the best highs out there, IMO.

If you don't see yourself ever getting off Methadone, it's because you don't want to. Methadone clinics are to get you off opiates. If you stay there for years, then it's because you don't want to be off opiates. The whole point is to taper yourself down and eventually get off the Methadone...you aren't supposed to stay in clinics for years.

If you really wanted off Methadone, you can take Suboxone and kick everything all together very easily. You just aren't ready to live life without opiates, in my opinion.

Sorry to be so blunt, but I just don't understand people who say they will be on Methadone for the rest of their lives...there is no reason anybody should be doing that, when you are supposed to be tapering down, and if that is too hard, you have Suboxone to make everything as easy as cake.

 

I agree with the melting walls part, but opiates will never be better than weed. I love opiate bliss, but it does not compare whatsoever to the imagination conjurred by pot and sometimes, psychedelics. I keep a notebook where I write many of my ideas, and most of the best have been unintentionally thought up when I was high.

it strikes me as weird when typical drug users say weed does not appeal to them. its really beyond me. and especially opiate users, the best most euphoric feeling I've ever felt besides sex was nodding off on opiates after smoking a fat chronic blunt.

 

I already explained on another thread, the weed + vicodin thread I believe, as to why I hate weed. Marijuana wasn't even close to euphoric for me. Never has been, and never will be.

 

I find that baffling. well, not that its not euphoric, but that you dont like weed. its incredible. If I had to choose only one drug to user for the rest of my life....

I dont even gotta finish the sentence, you know what Im gonna say.

 

Yeah, I spilled my story as to why I don't prefer marijuana in that same thread. It was almost a LETTER. lol

you can't miss it.

Weed used to make me euphoric, but now, it just makes me fucking paranoid. and I HATE PARANOIA. It is a terrible feeling in every possible way.

But on topic, I prefer OXY to MS CONTIN any day of the motherfucking week. OXY is just stronger to me. Better euphoria, definitely. Plus, I have never gotten a nod from MS CONTIN. Only the OXY has given me that oh so great NOD. I don't care if the MS CONTIN lasts longer... that's why I have more OXY waiting.

:cheers2:

 

haha now thats true love right there

rather have OC's anyday.. :>
have to agree with kil0 on the weed thing, i go on and off OC sometimes.. but ill probably always smoke weed
:sifone: :sifone::sifone:

 

Man, I totally agree with you hands down!!!

But I do also totally understand how some people don't like some drugs. I know people who hate the high of marijuana which I find very weird but it happens. Also I find that weed will help me with any pain I have, but I know others personally that find it just amplifies the pain.

Psychoactives are beyond mysterious which is why they're so fucking awesome.

 

see u4ia what Im sayin?? read the top two posts above.

OC is definitely more euphoric than marijuana, but I could not imagine myself doing oxy everyday, but I'll happily smoke herb all my life.

 

See though, read phat's post, and also, Pandaman says he understands how people don't like it. He has friends who hate it. I hate weed, I hate everything about it, lol. I hate the high, I hate the smell, I hate the taste, I hate how it makes me feel, and yes, it does make my pain WORSE I have found.

I wish I did like it, because it's such a socially acceptable drug. It just doesn't agree with me. When I smoke, I freak out so bad it reminds me of my bad acid trips, just with a shorter duration. Definitely as intense though. This is off ONE HIT, of some of the bunkest weed you have ever seen. Before you say that I just haven't smoked good shit, I have smoked over 200 times, every kind of weed I could possibly find, and have smoked it out of every possible contraption, including eating it.

I just don't like it. The one time I didn't freak out completely...I was laughing uncontrollably, I got hungry but my mouth was too dry to even swallow so I couldn't enjoy food, and I got tired, and went to sleep. I woke up feeling like I had a hangover, and some of the worst, most uncomfortable sleep ever. I hardly call that a good high. Laugh, eat, sleep. Not my thing.

 

Im sort of the same way with herb U4ia, but it doesnt bother my mentality, it bothers my skin. It feels like Im mildy allergic to it, like when I smoke, my skin feels like its burning. For me, herb is fun every once in awhile, I dont smoke often anymore. But when I do, with a few friends and some beer sitting around, I think it's wonderful. But Im not all about it.
Psychedelics are my main thing. Coming off my acid/mushroom trips with 120mg's of MSContin last summer was amazing however. One of the best was staying up all night dosing twice with mushrooms, then when my son woke up at 7-8am, I popped 2 Contin 60's and headed out to the beach. I'll never forget that morning drive to the ocean
God Bless +

 

Man I feel bad for you =((
haha.

Yeah that is pretty rare though when you think about it.
The percentage of people who enjoying toking to people who hate it is substantially different.

But that's why there are many many psychoactives. One for everyone! :cheers2:

 

That sounds awesome, especially getting to spend the day with your son, that must have been a magical day.

I personally don't like LSD, or Mushrooms either. Weed, LSD, and Mushrooms make me feel like I am not in control anymore, and it scares me to death.

 

oh. k... now i know why ms contin sucks, its morphine, and time release is in the pill in wax, heated to cover the morphine sulfate..

u4ia, i tried this shit, didnt burn my nose at all.. cant even taste a drip, i feel good, not all becuz the mscontin tho

 

These are the ones I had...100mg Controlled Release Morphine

http://www.pharmer.org/node/2843

Fuckers burned like hell, and gave such a vicious long-lasting drip that I kept puking because the drip would not go away. I must have puked up about 8 times over the course of an hour...I am sure I lost most of the pill, but I don't have any desire to try it again, obviously.

 

yikes, i wonder why this one didnt burn at all.. i didnt taste anything until i did another dilly.. yea fuck this pill, not worth anything..

man idk if u remember i said this pill was crushing wierd.. shit has fuckin wax in it lol.. idk if the 100mgs dont.. im thinkin thats why i didnt taste anything..

 

Was there a coating on it? You might of had to take the coating off of it, like an OC....

 

Yea you probably didn't take the coating off. That shit will fuck things up.

 

naw i took the coating off..
it was deep purple color on paper towel..

coating wasnt the prob tho:

"It is considered particularly dangerous to recreational drug users who are unaware that the time-release mechanism is a wax inside of the pill (not the colored coating on the outside) that, when heated, expands and encases the morphine sulfate. The danger presented to drug users who prefer intravenous/intramuscular injection is the wax."

left a waxy layer of shit on my mirror

 

Yeah, you should only have a problem if you tried to heat it....

The wax shouldn't even have been noticeable unless it was heated, from my understanding?

 

no way, i didnt heat it.. i wouldnt have done that because if im thinkin correct you would take a chance on ruining the potency of the opiates?

the wax wasnt really noticable at first.. just it was crushing wierd.. really sticky.. didnt crush into powder i mean.. when i first read it had wax as a CONTIN release inside the pill, thats when i noticed my mirror had funky wax shit all over it...

i still snorted it, just didnt have any taste.. stuff wasnt good anyways..
i ended up snorting almost 10mg of methadone to get a buzz, and i was fucked.. i never really got a great buzz off methadone, till last night