Hi! I'm interested in any info concerning the presence of 29 degrees in one's chart. Vedic astrology (I think it's Vedic) won't even answer any questions if29 degrees is in a chart. Would a chart's progression "change" the 29 degrees? Since I'm 51, soon to be 52, surely there ought to be some progression there. (There just Has to be a bright side - you know what I mean?) I recently posted under the unaspected planet thread and perhaps have just too much time on my hands to mull my chart... or maybe I'm looking for the Right time to play the lottery. Birth info is 10/8/56 @ 2:29AM in Atlanta, GA.
This is a rule mostly for horary astrology which is done in traditional European and also Vedic. The rule isn't just for late degrees, but also early degrees. This either indicates the question is asked too late or too early. However, many horary astrologers in the west today don't refuse do charts when it's in late or early degrees. However they still acknowledge that the question may be asked too late or early. For natal charts, there is a level of dignity called terms or bounds. When a planet is within a certain set of degrees in a certain sign, the plant will have a certain extra bump of power. Also, since a range of degrees is assigned to a particular planet, it will influence any planet in that range. For instance, your Sun is at 14*59' Libra. Libra is ruled by Venus, and degrees 7-14 are ruled by Mercury. This means that the Sun has some influence from Venus, BUT Mercury is also affecting this. One could say that the Sun's character in your chart is Sun/Libra/Venus/Mercury. Regarding late degrees though, all of the terms of the signs are ruled by a malefic planet - i.e. either by Saturn or Mars. You only have one planet in the terms of a malefic in a late degree - your Saturn. None of your house cusps are in late degrees. In the case of your Saturn, this is actually good since this is the only thing giving your Saturn a beneficial character. Otherwise it would be quite nasty.
Enlil, were you saying only Saturn was in the (critical) degree of 29, because both Neptune and Pluto are at 29 degrees according to my software. (That also doesn't count my nodes, also being at 29 degrees) I also thought that Pluto could be a malefic planet. No? Especially on the Asc. I was wondering about the possibility of progression getting the 29 degree planets on Away from this point.
I don't use the outer planets at all. I removed them from my astrological software, so I don't even see them. In modern astrology, I think Pluto is malefic, but in traditional it's just Mars and Saturn. Here's the breakdown: Saturn - malefic Jupiter - benefic Mars - malefic Sun - benefic or malefic depending on how close or far away a planet is. Venus - benefic Mercury - malefic and benefic depending on aspects and sign Moon - generally benefic, but slightly malefic when waning Regarding late degrees, it varies according to sign. Aries - 26-30 Saturn Taurus - 28-30 Mars Gemini - 25-30 Saturn Cancer - 27-30 Saturn Leo - 25-30 Mars Virgo - 29-30 Saturn Libra - 29-30 Mars Scorpio - 25-30 Saturn Sagittarius - 27-30 Mars Capricorn - 27-30 Mars Aquarius - 26-30 Saturn Pisces - 29-30 Saturn However, if Saturn or Mars are in one of the degrees they rule as listed above, then it's actually good. For instance Saturn in 25-30 Scorpio is good.
Yes enlil6; Pluto is a Malefic planet in modern astrology. Recently though Pluto is thought to be neccasary for change and renewal in the life of a person or place. It destroys and then rebuilds annew like a phoenix. It's not always bad. Mars is needed if we ever want to get anything done, but if it is misused it is just plain belligerent. Some may call it a malific planet. I find the outer planets essential for in depth analysis.
Since I began this line of thought, I felt I ought to let y'all know what I've found...now believe.. This would apply to anybody with 29 degrees in their birth chart, particularly if it is significant,which it Surely is in mine. (3 planets, both nodes). As far as progression goes, I do Not think it affects a thing insofar as the 29 critical degree issue. If one is born with this, one will basically Always deal with its significance and the effects, Particularly if there is a 29 degree planet conjunct the ascendant. Progression affects a lot of things, just not this - in my opinion.
That's an interesting concept you have there about 29 degrees being so "critical". I don't really know one way or another, though I have read somewhere about it way back. Ever look at Sabian Symbols? They cover each degree of every sign with a short sybolic speach. I don't think 29 degrees means much except that it blends a bit with the next sign. I wonder what being born with the sun at 29 degrees Pisces would be like. Very evolved I would guess and ready to leave life to be reborn as they would have done everything in past lives already.
Actually it's not me, but for-real astrologers that have referred to the 29 degrees being critical. It's also considered the Karmic or anaretic degree. Supposedly having this means you have a certain destiny and lesson you had Better learn this time around. I've greatly simplified it, but thats the gist. The 29 degrees Piscean sun- well, Creator help 'em. Though if they don't have 29 degrees scattered Everywhere, I'm thinking their lives would be interesting - if a bit hard to be around them. I came across some literature a while back that referred to Pisces as being the sign of intelligence and suicide. geez. (Personally I do agree with the statement "Ignorance is bliss") I'm going to have a look at Sabian Symbols - never heard of it.
That's very interesting. Is 29 degrees important for the sun, or for all of the planets? Anaretic sounds very scientific. It must be important.
Yep, for All of them. Even though there are varying degrees that are considered "significant", 29 degrees in any sign and with any planet should be noted. I promise - look it up. It's really interesting. And I did look up the Sabian Symbols - very unusual, sort of intriging. I plan to comb the sites and see if I can find any info on my particular 29s.
Anareta means "destroyer" in Greek. I haven't seen much about it in modern astrology, but that is the name for the "killing planet" in traditional astrology. This is the planet that is calculated from various points on the chart. When the ascendant or hyleg is directed to the anareta, then death is supposed to happen.
There's actually a cool traditional equivalent called "Astrological Optics" from the 15th century. It essentially does the same thing as Sabian Symbols, but instead of using the psychic intuition of Sabian Symbols, it uses astrological reasoning. Both have symbols for each of the 360 degrees of the zodiac. "Astrological Optics" takes it a bit further and also has symbols for each of the 36 10 degree divisions of the zodiac called "decans" or "faces".
I have Pisces natal sun at 29 degrees. Look what's coming up next year: Uranus will be at 29 Pisces in May of 2010. Jupiter and Uranus will be conjunct at 29 Pisces in Sept 2010 Jupiter at 29 Pisces, January 2011 Uranus at 29 Pisces, February, March 2011. Can anyone give me any pointers, particularly from personal experience, as to what I might expect....? Thanks (I am writing this from a nuclear shelter, but I don't suppose that'll help much)
