I just want to share with you folks a method that i have used and has worked to extract the lsa out of HBWS without getting sick. I was looking and i read story after story about people getting sick and crap so i thought i would help some people out and save em a bad trip. First i ground 8 seeds in a coffe grinder and put the powder in orange juice to sit for about an hour. Then i simply swished the orange juice with the powder in it around in my mouth for about 30 minutes. then i just spit it out, waited a couple hours and ta da the trip begins. and it was a damn good one especially without the concern of vomiting and stuff. Oh yea so apparently the way it works is the lsa is absorbed through your tounge. Happy trips!
I saw this on erowid. Is that where you saw it? The tongue absorbs almost all the chemicals over the half hour period putting the LSA straight into your blood and bearing you the temporary(at least for me)nausea of the seeds in your stomach.
i was thinking(thats a first haha), im not doubting the fact that it works or not..but wouldnt the toxins still be in oj that your swishing in your mouth..so ifs thats the cause..then wouldnt the toxins that get u sick still get u sick since its still in the orange juice. Help me explain please
wow i just realized that my last post was really bad english haha..my bad..hope you understand what i meant
I'd like to try this method out. pbfreak something probably destroys that shit or something. To be honest I have no idea, but apparently it has some positive feedback. Or magic...
I tried this once last winter. It works, but trust me. Swishing around for that long is the most irritating shit in the whole world. The saliva build up is insane. I didn't do it again for that reason alone. Plus the last few times that I just chewed and ate HBWR I had almost 0 nausea. A lot of it totally in your head. You can learn to disregard it and it helps a ton. It is pretty awesome how LSA can be absorbed sublingually though. Just wish it was faster
haha pandaman you are correct its pretty tough swishing it around for that long. just try to keep your mind occupied on something else. i belive the naseau comes from your stomachs reaction to the seeds so when you dont swallow them you dont get sick. ive tried it twice like this and i had absolutely no upset stomach. i didnt personally read this from erowid, my friend taught me but this technique is mentioned there. I just thought i would share this because it brings more peace of mind and lets you stay in the proper mindset in order to have a great trip
truli-that does make sense about it not reacting with ur stomach..thanks..and i will now try this out..it seems better than doing cw extraction
oh yea sorry i hope you diddnt try it already but this extraction method isnt as efficient as the others. you might want to up the dosage a little. anywhere from 10-12 seeds is a good amount. yesterday i only had 8 left and i tried it this way and it was a very light high. it was more of just like a mood lift and not a trip. I have done 11 this way---i weigh 140 pounds--- and it was a great trip
hmm, anyone know whether dramamine would reduce the nausea? It works great for opiates but I'm not sure if it would be the same for HBR. I've always been able to tolerate nausea on morning glory, peyote, ect, but I'm not trying to get really sick while stuck with a communal bathroom(in the dorms).
well, to answer my own question. Yes it does reduce the nausea, but you end up being incredibly tired for the trip. Win-Lose.