No more faith in thinking

I have come to see that thought is at the heart of suffering. It is also at the heart of time awareness... not time as used for practical purposes, but psychological time, a sense of not being fully present in the here and now. When there's unhappiness there, thought is the culprit, or rather attachment to thought. It's not an outer circumstance or situation that's the problem, it's simply believing a thought about that circumstance that makes a problem out of anything.

When I stop looking for anyone or anything to change then I'm able to witness the thought about it and fully see its problematic nature. Then the reason to let it go becomes apparent. And once the reason is there, the letting go happens automatically and naturally as there's no more allegiance and protection for that thought.

The only reason why I suffer is because I attach to and protect the thoughts that bring about suffering. Believing these thoughts is like making them my own, and I naturally seek to protect them, as parents protect their children. But when I see thoughts as not being part of "me" and not serving the truth, the desire to protect them vanishes and then they become weak with lack of attention, without the power to hurt me.

Without judgmental thinking life is experienced as free of problems, and thus free of suffering. It's really amazing how easy it is to cease suffering now, simply by doubting the truth of the thoughts that appear in my mind. It doesn't even matter that they appear there, or how long they stay. Once I know they're NOT TRUE, living becomes simple and joyful.

Beneath the thoughts what lives in the silent space is INSIGHT. This guides me well. In every moment I always have exactly what I need, because insight is at the heart of my guidance. Insight arises out of stillness. It is wholistic, peaceful, and kind to everyone and everything in the ultimate sense. To be carried on its wings is very joyful.

 

In thinking there is only thinking.

 

well said. as somewhat evolved creatures we should have access to the previous traits of our evolutionary ancestors(prehistory), such as knowing universal oneness. ego/conceptual consciousness is a higher and necessary step, but is only 'better' if we allow our embedded "suchness" or nonconceptual awareness to have a place. that way we know what we want after having been individuated, but can invite what we want into our lives by disolving the screen of thought and removing feelings of want. when you create the resultant gladness of a desirable circumstance within you before acquiring it, you naturally attract that thing to you. but putting many thoughts into how to acquire something you don't have only adds to the distance between you and that thing. it comes to you by feeling like you already have it.

maybe we can't contol every thought we have, but we can control what we dwell on and how we interpret the world, and that is what the universe corresponds with imo

 

Trying to control the thoughts that arise is something I attempted for a while, but then realized the futility of it. They just come and go, you know? I noticed that any attempt at control brought about strain, effort, resistance. In fact the desire for control itself arises out of thought. It's attempting to use will (thought) to end thought. Beneath that is a judgment "I should stop thoughts", "thoughts are wrong", "I shouldn't think." It makes no sense when you, ahem, think about it. LOL! Controlling what we dwell on... same thing. It's still control. Impossible. We can recognize that there's no truth in the thoughts, then a refocusing of attention is possible. And yes, a reinterpretation is possible. But really, when you look closely that's just more thought. Is there really a need to interpret anything further? I don't know. Perhaps it may be helpful in the interim, to interpret something "positive" versus the more "negative" older interpretation. Occasionally I've done that, when a particularly ingrained unhappy thought has dominated my mind. I first consider a different interpretation of it, what I consider more "positive". But then I can just let all interpretations go as I recognize I don't need them. In fact, what I recognized is that I don't let go of thoughts, but rather thoughts let go of me when I no longer give them attention.

So what happens when we switch into a new paradigm where thoughts or interpretations of any kind are no longer the driving force? Then there's no need to control anything because thoughts no longer matter. Who cares if they're there or not? They're not important, they don't mean anything, and they certainly don't direct the flow of life any longer. (Actually thoughts never did direct the flow of life, we only thought they did. Ha!) So there's no need to further resist (aka more thought) thought. There's simply allowing, space, openness. For what? For insight. A refocusing of attention on the stillness within where insight arises. The realm of thinking can be left alone, so to speak. And when there's no longer gas given to it, through lack of attention, it winds down.

 

yeah for sure. i didn't mean to imply that interpretation control is an ideal way to be, just that the realities we create are a result of "protected" interpretations and not fleeting thoughts or circumstances that come our way. but transcending concept and interpetation seems also to be moving on to a higher evolutionary level that might involve transcendent interpretation or transcending interpretation, or both idk

 

More thinking. None of this is true.

 

No word ever written is true.

More thinking.... what is?

 

*high-five*

 

I lost faith in thinking too. Whats interesting is where thoughts come from.
and the subconscious

 

=thinking?

 

see....words aren't true...


but smiley faces are.

 

doh! slapping forehead. Dear God, how did I miss this?? :dupe:

 

thinking --> coagulates into patterns --> becomes knowledge --> reinforced by more thinking --> strung together becomes a story --> a story requires characters, comprised of thought patterns "I am this" and "I am that" --> a story introduces the illusion of time in order to uphold the structure of sequential events --> all knowledge is the basis of story telling.

The story always leads to suffering for the characters in it. Why? Because it's empty. The story is empty of substance. It's form, superficial, shallow, unfulfilling in its essence.

I am not a character in a story. Substance, essence, fulfillment exists outside the story. JOY exists outside the story.

story = thinking & knowledge
no story = no thinking & no knowledge

PEACE, JOY, LOVE= the state of NOT KNOWING

Awareness is aware of the story and all the characters in it. It sees through the characters and recognizes itself.

What do I see here? What do I see now? The answers determines who I know my Self to be. The character??? No, not that.

 

Unfortunately it's easy to slip into thinking without even realizing we're doing it. The very curiosity and act of exploring the origin of thought will only lead back to thought by employing thought in order achieve the desired end of "knowing where they came from".

The means and the end are One and the same. As Carl Jung said (paraphrasing here...) you can't solve a problem from the same level of mind in which it arose.

 

In thinking, there is only thinking.

 

ya think?

 

no

 

So, what you're basicly saying is that we should not think, and just experience? ooo

Ooh man, you should write a book, "the way to enlightment and inner peace -bluesafire" , ehehehe .