Christianity and Drugs.

Using Paul's writings, if you used to get "closer to God" or to "realize salvation" or something like that, then it is bad. Paul believes that no act can justify a person (Abraham was justified through righteousness). If you use it as a good time, but do not forget a godly life, then I think the case can be made that it is not horrible to use. (Proverbs, do not be lead astray [from God] by strong drink).

Would I ever use, no. Do I think you can be a good person and use, yes. Do I think you can be a Christian and use, that is a little more difficult considering the drug trade itself.

Where do you get the LSD, where do they get it, what does the money end up funding...consider these things.

 

i think what it funds is beside the point. when i pay taxes i fund things that i dont support but i don't really have a choice. i think i can only be held responsible for my own actions, and what the next person does with my money is their business. after all, if they didn't get the money from me, they would have gotten it from someone else.

 

i've had some beautiful hallucinations and they , in kindness , linger on to become more .

 

I think it is the point. It is like blood diamonds. Would you buy diamonds if the money went to support genocides? Or is that not your concern?

Law and free choice are two different things. What taxes are allocated to can be fought. Think of lobby groups, they help decide where taxes are diverted to. Get involved in policy.

Yes, you can only be responsible for your own actions, but I think it is your responsibility to choose your actions wisely. I refer again to my blood diamond comment. If your actions help to produce other actions (with your knowledge that they probably will be a result) isn't it then a result of your action and then should be concerned.

This is very Disney Lemmming-ish of you. Horrible logic.

 

it isn't horrible logic. actually, it's a very simple truth.


and yeah good luck fighting what your tax dollars spend. now THAT is delusional.

anyway, i dont really think my acid money funds anything bad.

thanks for trying to make me look stupid though. disney lemming.
much appreciated.

 

This case doesn't specifically deal with taxes, but a couple weeks ago a law in Canada was put on the back burner because of a Facebook group. Change can happen. Activism can work.

I wasn't criticizing your logic that if you didn't someone else would, i was criticizing your rationalization to make it okay to buy from dealers.

 

I agree with Hryhorii, I try to not buy anything that will help fund something I don't agree with, be it trade wise or criminal activity. I would hate to think that what I was buying was coming from robbery, burglary, violence etc and I try to stay away from any product that may come from anything bad.

 

Yeah there definitely needs to be smart consumerism practiced, not to get uber paranoid about everything... but it is a good idea to be relatively vigilant. Luckily I know my sources

 

it's old school to become enlightened , to learn . what would one learn from seeing with illusion ?

 

what is real and what is illusion? every piece of artwork you have ever seen is an illusion, yet are they not valuable learning tools? words on the page of a book are illusions of the real message, but you can learn from them...

 

i think i learned something from tripping acid . it's about trusting my eyes when i see a fantastical glory in the world . our culture can be very repressive about facts of spirit in nature .

what i saw tripping was as nothing - tho i guess the shiny girl floating in a pink sailboat stopped for the red-light downtown late at night was pretty cute .

 

no, drugs can correlate with christianity. fuck the church. the church was an organization created by MAN. 99% of any churches doctrine is a man made interpretation. and a vast majority of it is just so they can stay in control. all churches are corrupt.

being a christian means only 3 things. you believe jesus was the son of god, you believe he died for your sins, and you accept him into your heart as your savior. you can be a smoker, drug user, gay, liberal, anything.

churches oppose drugs because psychedelics help open your eyes into seeing false things, as in most of their doctrine. LSD will make you realize you dont need a pope, patriarch, or paster. all you need is yourself and god.

besides, the early christians used marijuana and mushrooms in their rituals. its only in the last century that drugs have been condemned
so i say, trip on brother

 

To my knowledge, the Bible doesn't say anything specifically about drugs, but it does address some issues that can be relevant to the abuse of mind-altering substances. Certain kinds of conduct are considered immoral: drunkenness, and presumably drug abuse and addiction (Gal/ 5:1921; 1 Cor. 6:9-11); lawbreaking (Romans 13:1-5; 1 Peter 2:13,14; Tit. 3:1); and getting into spiritually dangerous situations involving loss of control (Proverbs 22:3; 1 Peter 1:8,9; 1 Peter 1:13-17). There is also a general mandate to treat the body as a "temple of the holy spirit" (1 Cor. 6:19). I think, just on utilitarian principles, that if a person's drug use gets to the point that (s)he harms or threatens to harm others, becomes dangerously out of control, supports criminal behavior, or experiencs serious impairment of judgment and health, it's not good.

 

i know christians that smoke weed because they say god created it as a medicene
chemical drugs im not sure im not a christian but i have done ecstasy and would recomend it to everyone i despratly wanna do it with my family 1 day it'l no doubt be one of the best if not the best night of their lives

 

I do believe ecstasy is the closest man has got to recreating true bliss.

 

But there is a price attached to that kind of ecstasy. True bliss is free for the taking, provided you've grown enough to reach the dispenser.



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Ofcourse, I've experienced it myself, and true bliss is totally undescribable, ecstasy is the closest drug I could think of to describe it.

 

Believe it or not Jimi Hendrix's song Purple Haze wasn't about Purple Haze as in the marijuana. It was about him coming back to Jesus and look at him. He used drugs all of his life. Plus God gave us every plant that bears seeds for our food and usage

 

oh yeah?

I heard it was about a book he was reading.

 

God gave us this unique plant with many healing properties.

No religion can argue this fact