obama and biden not very charitable,,thats a understatement.

now i always thought the democrats were supposed to be all about helping people.. why is it that obama(he did up his to a petty 5% after his last book) and biden gave less than 1% of there income to charities and McCain gave 26%?
biden is less than 1% for the last decade. thats fucking pathetic..


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=am_Rg6sl2eqY&refer=home

seems to me this shows a lack of compassion for those in need that can only translate into more of the same if elected to office..

 

How much as a % of your "wealth" did you give to charity?

 

over the last decade? i would estimate 20% has gone to what i consider charity.
i refuse to donate to organized charities, however i do consider opening my home to those who have nowhere else to go,feeding them,paying for there way here etc. charity. besides that i give to the homeless etc. when ever i come in contact with them..
at one point in 2006 i was housing and feeding 13 people here. that took well over 25% of my income...

so your point?

 

what about you odon?

 

Just asking.
Maybe their charity work is the same or similar.
Giving back to society is not always through money or how much money you give.
You judge them this way it seems.
Is this fair?

 

In monetary terms I give about £10/20 a month.
Which is bugger all really.
I'm told by those I give this money to it helps.
I take their word for it.
In time and none monetary ways I give nothing back to be honest.
I should I know.

Edit: I give to the homeless too.

 

did you read the article? on that income scale it unheard of for folks to give to charities you cant use as a write off..
you can speculate all you wish but the fact is they can say what they want the proof is in the pudding..

after the fiasco with gore one would think someone considering a presidential run would go out of there way to make sure there charitable donations are well documented if they did indeed make them..
i assure you this will become a republican talking point and it will have a bearing on some undecided votes..

how does a self proclaimed "devout christian" have less than 10% of there income going to charity? i assure you among that group it does matter...

 

So what if it is a Republican talking point.
What has that got to do with you?

It seems to matter to you too.
I have no idea why...

 

the bigger question is, why does it matter to you? your not even from this country.
so in that sense,if it shouldnt be a issue to me you shouldnt even had the right to reply to this thread because it has 0 bearing on anything that affects you..

but to answer your question,it has nothing to do with me,i have no intention of voting for either.however if i were a obama/biden supporter i would be a bit miffed over another bad judgment call in there bid for the whitehouse..
every vote counts and this will cost them at least a few...

once again,i post things like this to get a little balance here,stir the pot in the process..
how boring would this forum be if there was nothing but McCain bashing going on?

i find obama bashing much more entertaining..

 

The Dems are always generous with other peoples money. They tax the ones who can afford it and give to the poor with the promise that if you vote for us we will give you all
these goodies. That's why you were surprised Obama and Biden had given so little to charity. Kind of sounds like that Marxist idea " From each according to their ability to each
according to their need " That idea really worked well in the old Soviet Union.

 

It does not matter to me.
I don't care how much they give to charity.
I read it out of interest that's all.
I'm not bothered by it, however.
I replied to your response to it.
I was interested if you practised what you preached.
You seem to.
Well done you.

Stir the pot all you like but when you make a personal comment expect a response.

 

i never said i didnt expect a response. i was merely using your logic in my response to your last question.
you seemed to have implied that if it didnt affect me why did i even post it.
so by that logic you should never have responded..

 

I just wondered why it mattered to you if you were merely stiring the pot.
You gave your own personal opinion on it it seemed rather than: this'll be a Rebublican talking point etc. Never mind though.

 

strange, i thought i clarified my statements quite well..

sorry you cant comprehend.. i see no way i can make my views and opinion on it any clearer...

 

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Charitable contributions should be made without fanfare or measurement, or how can they be contrued as charitable.

That article didn't mention McCain:

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/02/hbc-90002519

I am impressed are you? Try again.

 

McCain and his wife are worth a hundred million or more.I suppose they could afford to give more.He is also a lying son of a bitch.

 

yeah it did mention mccain gardener. they file separate and his came to 26% of his annual income...


the way i see it is tax deductible organizations are all a sham anyway. so it doesnt matter whether they give to elite schools or the red cross,someone is getting a 6 figure income off that donation..

go look at what all the charitable organizations actually spend on the "cause".. if you find one thats over 10 cents on the dollar let me know..
while your at it,find me a ceo of one of those organizations that doesnt receive a 6 figure income...

its all bullshit anyway,but like i said earlier,that wont matter to some undecided voters.. imo of course...

 

Could you look into Comic Relief UK or US for me.
See if more than 10% goes to charity and if the organisers earn 6 figure sums.
Only if you have time.

 

the site i usually use only has US organizations i believe,but you can check..

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=35