Just a question , looking for some advice. My mother is Jewish my step dad christian I ahve told them I am an atheist and that I would appreciate them not continuing to push their beliefs on me. I have no problem with what they believe in period. My mother is more easy going (she goes to a reform synague they are great they have no problems w/my belief or lack thereof) My sttepdad on the other hand cant catch a grip. :toetap05: I repectfully listen but sometimes he is sooooo pushy. I had a horrible time in the churches he forced us to go to, and was abused at 2 of them. I've explained to him why I feel the way I do and he just wont let it go. I have a running joke with my sister that as intelligent as he is(hes a cfo) you would think he would be an athesist. Anyhow how do you folks deal with family members? Please no rude comments this post is sincere and really looking for a way to get them to back off. Sorry so long
There's many good arguments, the better they get the more they get resisted. No external force can trump the convincing power of one's own mind. All I'd recommend is not to refer to yourself as an "atheist" to them since I think most of the time people take it the wrong way. To them an atheist can't be better than the scum of the earth. Since most christians are image-oriented, the term atheist doesn't go over well. The way I like to deal with neurotic christians ( or in my parents case, mormons), is to actually convey a personality that is more similar to Jesus' than they're used to. They can pound the pulpit and talk about Jesus while you demonstrate peace, patience, universal love. Or just flip it so that you are on the offensive rather than the defensive. I went from defending my views to just tearing theirs apart to the point that they couldn't respond. Once I pointed out the utter fallacies in their most cherished beliefs, they pretty much left me alone. I don't prefer this option though. They get a thrill out of the experience, maybe you just need to make it unpleasant for them. I'm sure there's a lot of good anti-christian lit out there. good luck
But causality as the thought. We may take up the real world thinking of what caused what, even with people looking at such causing such. Assume we are thinking causes; is it then that the original Cause could have it's place; or is it When we are next to someone's requested actions, somehow not yet at performance, somehow already at performance, that the search for the unfulfilled original Cause, the universe causing itself Per Universe... can knock US out of existence for our parents (???)
I'm sorry, but none of what you just said makes any sense. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything which could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it.
It's double talk--intentional or (worse) unintentional. Sounds profound but is completely incoherent.
I wonder if the World was meant to be promised for Us by some higher thought but that should have happened to Us long ago according to the philosophers. Or maybe the British Empirialism deceives our Parents for it. The human condition is for anyone; we're all human. A pauper can be the King, and vis-a-versa. So the promise can be made for the future still. I really believe that the promise in American Empirialism (next akin to the above) is a new generation Gap.
My family is very religious (christians) about a year ago I told my parents that I don't believe in it at all which make my mom crazy and she would cry. They would randomly attack me about not believing it saying how I'll go to hell and all of that. Eventually my brothers started to bother me about it and we would all get into an argument. It took a while for them to drop it and let me be, but I'm still forced to go to church every wednesday. I say just wait it out and try not to talk about it and if they bring it up be short with them don't bother getting into any arguments. You just have to remember they wan't you to believe because they love you and they wouldn't want to to be in a position like that.
I find it ironic that one of the best words to describe the religious mind is EVIL, a word contrived from their own nonsense and ignorance. What is often a form a child abuse, both mental and physical is considered normal and RIGHT because these EVIL religious people run our governments and write our laws.
Religion is just like politics. People and, in this case family are going to agree to disagree. I would just keep them to yourself. You know you're right...deep down.
