You must of got bad hash, my dealer always has a choice of hash in, from the blondest pollen to the darkest stickiest black, and to the ones who are saying black hash is shit, you cant realy know what your talking about, ive had black hash that has blown any blonde pollem hash ive had out of the water.
Yea thats exactly what my freind said... I know its no resin because you can tell just by looking at it/tasting it.. I dunno maybe il try it again sometime and report back
the only black hash i have ever personally seen is either scissor/finger hash and isopropyl rubbing alcohol hash.....scissor/finger hash can be pretty damn good but fuck isopropyl..........now im not saying your wrong, but i would like to see some pics of the black hash your talking about.
hash varies a lot in quality. i prefer good hash to any herb any day of the week. with newer, more high tec means of producing hashish (i.e. bubble hash) the potency and taste can be significantly altered. there is much division among enthusiasts as to what kind of hash is best. a phrase i've heard a few times is "if it doesnt bubble, its not worth the trouble." i agree only partially. in general, i think i almost prefer the more "natural" traditionally processed hashish, and much of it WILL be very dark brown to black in color. take charas for instance. this is NOT to be confused with lower quality hash like soapbar, which is often dark in color. the color has little to do with its effect and virtually everything to do with how it was processed. highly refined, light/golden colored "bubble hash" of exceptional quality less refined, dark colored charas, a traditional indian/himalayan variety of hashish, also usually of exceptional quality hashish can come in a variety of colors and qualities. some hashish is of tremendously low quality and will get you nothing more than (if you're lucky) a sore throat or (if you're unlucky) sick. i have purchased good looking and fine smelling blonde hash once upon a time that smelled and tasted like the real deal, yet no matter how much i smoked i couldnt get significantly high. i was lucky - it was simply really, really shitty hash. if i had been unlucky, i'd have gotten the american equivalent of what folks in the uk call soapbar - exceedingly low quality hash which is cut with other, often very unhealthy, substances to increase bulk and therefore profit. it should smell very reminiscent of marijuana but usually an earthier, spicier aroma. same goes for the taste - earthier, spicier, but still remarkably similar to smoking bud. (this is generalization based on my own previous few experiences buying and smoking hash - do not take this as gospel truth) one thing is CERTAIN, regardless of what kind of hash you're smoking - toke for toke, it should knock you on your ass far quicker than regular old herb. its concentrated trichomes - the resin glands on the bud - which possess the majority of the THC in the marijuana plant. it should be very strong compared to herb. the first time i had hash i had the bad shit i mentioned above. it turned me off to the idea of buying it again for a LONG time, and always figured i wouldnt get anything worth smoking till i could grow my own or go to amsterdam or somewhere. but then i tried some damn good shit, and from then on, i prefer it to buds hands down. gimme a lump of tasty hashish, a cup of plain espresso and a lazy, sunny spring afternoon (maybe a good book or a movie, or just a chance to relax outside) and i'm in heaven!
Lol maybe my freind did get ripped by buying shitty hash.. however he claimed he got really really baked, i dunno maybe hes just trying to protect his investment and make himself think he didnt get owned.. i dunno
it's possible. when someone's pride's on the line, a human can put a hell of a lot into self-delusion.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, I once spent $70 on an 8th of really, really shitty weed. It didn't look that bad but it smelled like fresh cut grass, almost like the buds were picked a month early or something. I dont even know if that's possible btw just saying that's what it made me think. Anyway, wasting my money on it just made me more pissed it was so shitty.
yeah, hash is one of those things that a lot of people aren't exposed to..at least not as much as weed, and so a lot of people can get ripped off on it pretty easily. besides it 'might' have been good hash, and just stored badly...if it gets hot, or oxidizes, it'll turn hard and black, and it can really lose potency quickly.
exactly. my first experience was incredibly dissappointing as i said. it was from my regular guy (at the time, my regular guy happened to be very busy in said occupation, and was rather well noticed by the authorities eventually...luckily i wasn't present at the bust. i didnt ever spend long there) he had been selling hash for about a week for 30 or so an eighth i forget. but yeah, an eighth, not a gram. anyway, a few friends had bought a few bags and been very impressed. excited at the idea, i decided to get myself. so i call him up, and ask if i can come over. i get there, and he informs me he's trying to unload the rest and is offering a special price....an eighth for 10 bucks. i figured my friends were more than satisfied at the high price, and i was ready to spend 30 anyway, so i got three eighths of the shit. it seemed like real hash. i still think it was, sort of. but it was the most god awful good-for-nothing hash i've ever had. i smoked two bowls and didn't even get a significant buzz. this must have been absolute bottom of the barrel...he got lousy shit and wanted to sell it anyway. i'm still convinced the stuff people were getting earlier probably WAS good, even though i didnt get any. stuff was all dry and suspiciously crumbly, too. not cool. later on, i found out what good hash is all about....its one of lifes most indulgant substances, in my opinion....wonderful stuff....just keep on believing!
well thanks for those imformative posts nesta!! See i can't really say much on the matter because i've never even seen/heard about hash in my area.......the only hash i've ever had was stuff i've made myself.......while the stuff i make isn't bottom of the barrell by any means.....it's no cannabis cup entry or anything......still a VERY nice smoke tho!! Way better than the buds it comes from!
than its worth the effort! good hash is good, good bud is good. i dont really try to compare stuff TOO much....qualitatively yes...but...i dunno....i think people say "weed is better in bc" or "weed is better in cali" or "weed is better in amsterdam"....and i've never been to most of these places people say the best weed is.... but i've smoked really good and really bad stuff. in some very unexpected places..... its all how its grown and made. i've seen pics of your plants, so i'm sure the hash aint bad. honestly, if i were to make my own hash (someday!) i'd use the old silk screen method. i think the bubble hash obsession is kinda silly. i like simply made hash just fine, its not AS potent usually but its still MORE than effective enough and quite pleasant to smoke...i say, why mess with perfection?? but bubble hash can be nice. still, like i said, my experiences are rather limited. actually, i'd be willing to wager the shit you made is likely better than most i ever smoked.
easiest system I've ever heard of for bubblehash is by cannievergrow, on these forums. he takes the greenery, freezes it, then ice water processes it, strains through a paint strainer bag, then through a permanant style (like the gold type) coffee filter. then just siphon off the water, let the precipitate dry, and you have a pretty damn decent bubble hash without the trouble of a 300$ bag set or buying silkscreen. real easy, real simple, runs you about 15$, 30 if you have to buy a blender.
i've heard TERRIBLE things from a number of people about using a blender also, sifting with a silk screen is super simple and silk screens are nowhere near unreasonably expensive. just get a fine enough mesh, sift, compress with just a touch of heat to help it along, and you should be good. more traditional (for the most part), easier, cheaper, low tech..... i dunno...i can't see myself going to much more trouble than that, except perhaps for a special occasion heres a video example of the process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n6WW2gzwJc
yeah, if you use a blender you have to be pretty gentle with it, especially if your plants aren't frozen. I think, reading back over it, he's using a paint stirrer, which if he is, I beg pardon for having a mistake in my memory. I'm too sober for the day still. yeah, I'm corrected. he uses a paint mixer. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=310909&f=222 I've seen similiar things done with a blender, but only with cold ice water, frozen weed, and low speed 'stir' type agitation, not trying to turn it into a green smoothie. lol.
i still think i'd stick with the silk screen....simple, cheap, tried and true...and look at that delicious looking chunk of hash they got from that little bowl of trimmings! the only thing i might do differently would be using the clay extruder method of pressing the hash. a small additional investment, but i dont regularly smoke cigarettes so it would be smarter for me to do it that way that to keep buying a pack of smokes every time i wanted to make some hash... http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=47524 the op who outlined the process for pressing hash with the extruder actually was using ground bud rather than hash, but it would work the same (his stuff was sticky enough to stick together when pressed and warmed, and its a sensible way of storing it if you grow your own and its really potent and sticky, because it would VASTLY decrease the surface area and exposure to light and air, preserving quality and potency...i'd be afraid of it fucking with flavor, though. but the principles are the same - this would be great for hash pressing) (check out the blonde hash the dude further down that page made!)
