Rfid

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by stalk, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    Just got my passport in the mail today, and sure enough, there's an RFID chip in there.
     
  2. Jaitaiyai

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    In the passport? Whats it look like?
     
  3. stalk

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    It's embedded inside,
    so you can't see it
    though the pamphlet that came with it came with an explanation for the "electronic passport" is what they're calling it......

    also

    have any of you guys seen how much propaganda and sacred geometry is spilled all over these passports?

    It's just silly.
     
  4. stalk

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    "This document contains sensitive electronics. For best performance, do not bend, perforate or expose to extreme temperatures"
     
  5. Kizen

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    what happens if the chip breaks. Say you travel to the north pole or something?
     
  6. stalk

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    They say it's valid if the chip doesn't work,
    but still
    I'm not going to mess with it
    I just wanted to let you guys know.

    But apparently there's a wiki for passports + rfid, just checked it out

    I guess this isn't a big deal anymore................
     
  7. Jaitaiyai

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    Oh.. I need to check if mine has that in it.. I thought it was still a bit deal too.
     
  8. stalk

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    If it does it has this symbol on the front under "United states of America"

    it's 2 rectangles with a circle in the middle. Looks like a Camera.
     
  9. Jaitaiyai

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    Oh i dont have a USA passport. Mines from the UK.
     
  10. stalk

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    check out the wiki rfid
    might help you out
     
  11. Kizen

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    UK passport has one in too!
     
  12. Jaitaiyai

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    kk... cheers.
     
  13. Jaitaiyai

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    shoot. Apparently its easily hackable which is just even better :rolleyes:
     
  14. Sunny Jim

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    Give it a quick zap in the microwave.
     
  15. stalk

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    I don't know why you guys would fuck with it.
    The last thing I would want is to be confronted in another country about it.
    I'm just leaving it alone, but I wanted to point it out.
     
  16. zihger

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    That is kind of strange it said in Wiki that those chips are trackable with radio waves.

    Yeah I wouldn’t mess them.

    I had a passport that was half falling apart once and border guards start really examining it hard because the laminate by the picture was coming apart.

    It is a bad feeling to be in some fucked up country and wondering if some thug with a machine gun and keys to a decrepit jail will give you your passport back.
     
  17. stalk

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    word.
     
  18. BillyX

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    My new Australian passport also has one of these chips in it.
     
  19. odon

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    Could you post that link, please.
    As far as I know:
    The machines used to read the information only work over very short distances.

    The government claims the new biometric passport chips can be read over a distance of just 2cm, but researchers all over the world claim to have read them from further. The physics governing those in British passports says they could be read over a metre, but no one has yet done that. A Dutch team claims to have contacted chips at 30cm.

    I imagine the same goes for US passports.

    At those distances if somebody wanted to track you they would follow you I would have thought.

    But, then you have to think why would somebody want to track you.
    We're then into conspiracy territory IMO.




    They are.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/nov/17/news.homeaffairs


    But another passport can not be made and used as the whole point is it has YOUR biometrics are on it, nobody elses.
    All the details have to be confirmed for them to be accepted at airports.
    Concerned?
    See what those with motivation can do with just a stub from your ticket.


    (from the link)
    with the help of a rather scary computer expert, I deconstructed the life of an airline passenger simply by using information garnered from a boarding-pass stub he had thrown into a dustbin on the Heathrow Express. By using his British Airways frequent-flyer number and buying a ticket in his name on the airline's website, we were able to access his personal data, passport number, date of birth and nationality. Based on this information, using publicly available databases, we found out where he lived, his profession, all his academic qualifications and even how much his house was worth.
    It would have been only a short hop to stealing his identity, committing fraud in his name and generally ruining his life.
     
  20. zihger

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    An RFID tag is an object that can be applied to or incorporated into a product, animal, or person for the purpose of identification and tracking using radio waves. Some tags can be read from several meters away and beyond the line of sight of the reader.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID#Passports_2

    Wiki just says readable to a few meters but who knows what other tools that bigbrother has to read them.

    I think the thing that sucks about all the chips and cards is the are probably trying to get people used to the idea and comfortable with the technology slowly then the will just say they need to implant it because it is not secure other wise “terrorists” can forge them.

    [​IMG][​IMG]
    An RFID tag implanted with a simple “noninvasive” surgical procedure.
     

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