Lazy Music lovers...(or just spoiled)

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Neo-hippie, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. Neo-hippie

    Neo-hippie Member

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    Alright, allow me to whine about something, I'm a first time whiner ;)

    I am a music lover, as i can imagine Many people here are!
    As a music lover i'm always looking for "new" nice music.
    And as an addict, i'm not particularly picky about what is what is coming my way, I just greedily absorb it.
    It makes no real difference rather it is a band that's been going for 2 weeks or one that has been around for 50 years.
    And yet... it kinda bugs me the way people are approaching music.
    the last couple of weeks i'v been posting a few songs from my latest Jam band project, (wich i know any music lover would, or could appreciate) And i've been asking for some feedback, it's seems now over 200 people have checked out at least a couple of songs, and yet the comment i received
    I am able to count on one hand![​IMG]

    I don't get it, i mean sure these are mostly just jams, but if anything that should add to the magic of these things...i think...
    And Sure, the sound quality isn't hifi-studio quality and all, but still, i have made some recordings on a mono- memo recorder that are of better quality then the first Dylan albums, catch my drift?
    It just seems that for Led Zeppelin, or Jimi Hendrix, people are willing to listen to a crappy sounding bootleg and really take time to listen THROUGH the distortion to find the beautiful music.
    To be kinda honest, what goes for a crappy sound quality nowadays is still better then a really good bootleg from the 70s.

    Get what i'm saying?

    I don't know, as i said i'm a music lover myself and when someone gives me a song, be it there new demo, or a song that really touched them in some way. i just take the time to Enjoy it, tune in to it, and share some thoughts on it.

    I'm not looking for Ass kisses here, i'm just looking for people who/to enjoy and share thoughts on (my) music with...

    Where is everybody?!
     
  2. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    So essentially you're complaining about people not loving your music, which is poor-quality recordings of jam sessions?
     
  3. Neo-hippie

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    Oh no not at all my friend, I'm complaining (or whining, but wasn't that the point?) about people not leaving remarks...what ever they maybe...
    everyone is free to think what they want about it, I just want to hear it:)

    I'm just so curious, rather people are able to recognize the magic in (our) music (in general) and all I'm offering (I Hope) is something "new", something fresh, something strange, something...

    BTW, did you jump to the conclusion that it was poor quality from my post, or did you check for yourself?

    Thanks for your reply Jimmy P.
    Rock on...
     
  4. aliced

    aliced Dude Guy

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    I checked out your music... dude... calm down man. no offensive but dont quit your day job. I am sure it was all fun to make but it really isn't that great. It does not sound unique or original. It sounds as said above, like a poorly recorded group of jams. You can talk the talk my friend... but the walk is far too long.

    The reason why people are willing to listen to a low quality bootleg of Jimi, Zeppelin, or the Dead is because all above had extreme talent. You can jam... but it is absurd to have even wondered why people would rather listen to music gods over yourself.
     
  5. Neo-hippie

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    oke now we're rolling...
    How nice of you to say so, (no sarcasm).
    In truth i'm not comparing our stuff to the stuff of those rock sages, you are. perhaps in way...
    I was commenting about the neutrality (or lack of) with wich it is approached.
    the thing is if you listen to bootlegged live recording of whoever, you can catch the artist or musician at his most...insert what you're looking for; pureness,nakedness, fragility, diversity, spontaneous, improvis-ious-nous-a-ly-able...and catch 'm those infallible "gods" at there most "human", including the mistakes, some folks can look past that, even dig, or see the idea beyond that.
    And i know a lot of guitar players, including yours truly, find some from of comfort when the hear a recording of a wasted 22 year old [Who ever] fuckin around the same way...
    It's about a packaging thing, a label thing, about wine tasting different if served in a cup of a mug, you know what mean?
    Why thank you, is that an observation? i dunno...It;s about the journey...
    and what we're trying to do our jam band is trying to invole everything and everyone into the whole...make it as approachable as possible for anyone, be it musician or listener, buy it's indeed a long walk so you're being tested[​IMG]
    It results in highly talented individuals combined and pared up with less talented but good willing spirits, and yeah, guess you had to be there...it's the same old story trying to describe any miracle...

    It's the music, not the musician...
    i'm not claiming any credit at all, i'm not doing anything. just being...
    there are incredible highs and incredible lows...it's the long walk indeed...
    will you join us for a few steps?
     
  6. joo kyle

    joo kyle thisandthat

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    Maybe they just don't have anything to say about it. Or just look the thread to see what it's about and not listen to the music.
     
  7. myself

    myself just me

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    Maybe they found it boring to just say, wow, wonderful music, and thought you were expecting for something more elaborate. Or they were so charmed with the songs that they forgot to type out their minds, if I may say so...
     
  8. Neo-hippie

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    Please do, it's all very well possible...

    And yeah, i was kinda hoping (not expecting) for something a little more elaborate than; "it's Cool", "that sucks" , "that's weird", "that's funny", "that's horrible"
    oke sure i'm not expecting a 2000 word essay or anything...but it would be nice;) :p

    there are some very dreamy pieces in there, and i'm wondering what they're doing to people.

    And i know its all relative, if your best friend came storming in and told you to "listen to this man! check it out!" I have a feeling you would be more open(minded) to it then when (like now) a whino
    us asking for attention, but i' don\t mind playing that role for now...

    Thanks for taking some time...
     
  9. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    I wouldn't take it personally or anything, if you look around the internet, the number of people that comment or have anything to say (for whatever reason) about music or videos, is less then 1%.
     
  10. Neo-hippie

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    People a lot of the time don't comment unless they have someone to argue with. I know I'm that way.
     
  13. Neo-hippie

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    but it's all so relative...!? :confused:why should i argue with someone giving their opinion of sharing their experience ?

    Should i argue with 'm?:cool:
    Bring it on you bunch o no good lurkers...:mad:
    ..please?

    Like that?:rolleyes:
     
  14. Hoatzin

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    I'd guess that, if people aren't commenting, it's because they don't like it, but don't hate it enough that they want to hurt your feelings. That's the main reason why I don't leave feedback on music profiles. I speak as a musician whose played in bands and stuff. Honestly, do you want to wade through three hundred comments along the lines of "It's not really my cup of tea, but hey, someone might like it" every day?
     
  15. Neo-hippie

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    Well... yeah!? Sure,

    just some feedback would be nice, don't you think?
    You're an artist, don't you want to know *if* and *how* your work is received and perceived?
     
  16. Hoatzin

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    Nah, I know I'm awesome and that's basically most of what matters to me. Click here for the proof.

    I'm just realistic. Most people are only going to tell you what they think if they think it's what you want to hear. Unless you're the worst thing they've ever heard and they honestly want you to quit music to make the world a better place, they'll either lie or say nothing. So I dunno, if you want feedback, put people on the spot; carry your music around on a dictaphone and accost people with it in the street!

    I suspect that, if you want feedback, what you really want is a confidence boost. You really ought to just do some gigs if that's the case. Once you've done that, you won't care what anyone else thinks.
     
  17. Neo-hippie

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    Oke so i gave your music a listen, and i can understand where your coming from when you say fuck the feedback, this it, like it or not, love it or hate it, Sure...
    But that is just the type of music to go with that attitude ( i can appreciate )

    But with the guys i'm involved with, we all feel like we've got stuff to say, it's not an Ego thing, it's about showing something, ?beautiful? or ?discusting? , just a work of spontaneous creation combustion . to show that there's more Out There, and what could happen when comming together in Music....

    Anyone know what i mean?
     
  18. Hoatzin

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    Haha, a lot of people say that, but nah, we really wanted to make popular music. I think our gigs all went down okay. I always saw it as pop rather than artsy stuff, so if people had really thought it was shit I'll admit I probably wouldn't have kept it up beyond the first gig or two.

    I think gigging is the only way you're really going to get trustworthy feedback. Sad but true. The Internet will either give you indifference or false positives. When you're in front of people in a bar or something, impinging on their time, you can find out a lot more about how good you are.
     
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