there is NO true oil shortage, according to US gov stats! - there's a growing surplus

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by jonjan, Aug 21, 2006.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Remember the discrediting of the French, Germans and Russians before this war took place? And the US asking for those debts to be forgiven after the US invaded...why was that? Because most of those debts were owed to those countries, they invested in Iraq, and they were supposed erase those debts because the US invaded and confiscated those resources.

    The US controls the production and drilling of Iraqi oil, or rather private US corporations do:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm

    Get real folks you think we are spending this much money and killing US GIs and innocent middle eastern civilians and no one is getting rich off it.

    Texas corporations and Saudis are benefitting. Remember that the majority of the terrorists on 09/11 were Saudis and Bin Laden is a Saudi. Where does the American public benefit out of all this? Someone please show me?
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Many of the funds that can't be accounted for were overseen by US administrators. There are millions of dollars perhaps billions in Iraq under US administration that can't be accounted for. Where is oversight and accountability with this administration?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5763483/

    Texas/Halliburton, Saudis anyone else see some sort of a link here?
     
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    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  4. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    Thanks for that article, which explains that Iraqi oil was not privatised. Do me a favor, read the links before you post them. It is too easy when you mistakenly post articles which show EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY.
    Well maybe you should start a campaign to make the Iraqi people pay for all the soviet weapons Saddam used to kill them. You know, since you're so interested in justice.

    Personally, i want to apologise to france, germany and russia for discrediting them - after all, all they did was sell iraq 99% of the weapons it used to attack its neighbors. What's wrong with that, right?
    The money was transferred to Iraq. Ask the Iraqi government. You see that's the problem - first you complain that the US controls everything in Iraq - now you're complaining that they don't. The only thing that's consistent is that you are complaining.
    Iraq. Is this really so complicated? Who controls French ministries? France. Japanese ministries? Japan. Etc. Good to know that you consider people convicted of conspiracy, mail fraud and tax violations, who have run for president 8 times and lost, to be reliable sources.
     
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    Just my opinion, but I think I'm living in a sick machine culture here in southern Alberta. You go to the bush and you're over-run with jerks from the suburbs bringing out their all terrain vehicles and dirt bikes they've towed in behind their 70 foot mobile homes. I'm there with myself and my dog and my compact car (4 cylinders) and a tent, and I damn well don't light a fire unless it's cold out.

    So the thing to do with these jerks from the suburbs (see above) is to keep the price of gas up there where it costs them some money. Cheap gas and better roads means more citified jerks in their machines driving, driving, driving like it's their God given right, which it isn't.

    Am I right or am I wrong?
     
  6. USA in decline

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    http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/tesla-roadster-electric-060-in-four-seconds-188565.php Fellow bloggers from our greasemonkey brother site Jalopnik got a first peek tonight at the much-anticipated Tesla Roadster, an electric-powered road rocket that can travel from 0-60 in four seconds with a top speed of 130mph. Singing the body electric is a 182-kilowatt AC-induction motor, a rear-mounted power plant drawing its energy from 6800 lithium ion batteries. Even though that engine's barely audible, it's capable of rotating at an astonishing 13,500rpm before it even gets close to the redline.
    It's packed with lots of humble off-the-shelf components, yet we're hearing the vehicle might cost in the neighborhood of $100K. It takes 3.5 hours to charge up those thousands of batteries, and on a full charge it can keep on going and going, quick like a bunny, for 250 miles. Looks like lots of fun to drive, where its two forward gears let you enjoy that flat torque curve you can only get with an electric motor. Now if you'll just lend us $99,995, we'll be on our way.
     
  7. jonjan

    jonjan release and be peace

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