gays keep being assaulted in Italy

a new episode of intolerance, in brief a young woman has been called shitty lesbian, assaulted and kicked by the usual bald boys we are getting used to. she was leaving "coming out" , a famous gay club in Rome. this is only the last of a lot of similar episodes that started happening after the great victory of the right wing coalition led by mr. Berlusconi. so be careful friends: Italy's not a good place for gays and lesbians right now, and Rome is the very worst place . Verbal aggressions are commonplace there , it happened 2 times to me, but now they have decided that the times are ready to rise the stakes. Neofascist G.Alemanno is also the current city mayor and this appears to exalt the once-creeping-now galloping intolerance that is striking everyone who's not "square": homeless, gay persons, gypsies, immigrants, radicals, to the extent that is no longer safe to attract attention. In some cities, like Lucca the favorite target are radical militants, one has been literaly ran out of the road with his car, then grabbed out and stabbed.
If someone is planning to visit a major city in Italy, it's safe to mantain a low profile and avoid arguing. But I suggest to change destination instead.

http://www.repubblica.it/2008/07/se...dita/lesbica-aggredita/lesbica-aggredita.html

 

I don't think Gianni Alemanno is homophobic. He just disapproves of the Gay Pride parade, for which I don't blame him. I can't say the same of the whole of Italy, but I've never thought it was close to as homophobic as Eastern Europe. You can find stories like these that have happened in NYC.

Also, about being open. You have a chance of being assaulted anywhere if you wear it upon your sleeve and flaunt your homosexuality in public.

 

you're wrong. before, it was unthinkable for a famous dancer being assaulted when practicing, in a gym , because it has both guilts of being an homosexual and a foreigner. now things like these happen very, very often. ah btw im not gay, in Rome it seems that it's enough to have long hair and dress a bit weird to be labeled as such and unleash the (verbal) aggressions, but after all it happened to me in a very crowded underground station at noon. Fancy if i was alone, in some empty road. Dont know What goes on in NYC but it is worhtless to me. if you have a trouble it's not a good reason for us to accept things without reacting.

so Alemanno isnt homophobic nor a fascist. haha. too bad that his followers dont share his point of view. official points of view are, as you may easily figure out without need of suggestion from my side, different from real ones: as a politician he has to be politically correct, but I judge the faith by its work. read my previous post: i never suspected that during my life, in my very own country, i could watch on national TV the images of a handful of fascists leading a crowd of assholes in a pogrom against some screaming trans people backed by the police with a TV newspaperists that comments positively what is going on before his eyes saying that they are just good citizens against filth in their block. this sucks. if you think that things like that are even barely acceptable...

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=fSAQo3f9nqY

photos are more eloquent

http://roma.repubblica.it/multimedia/home/2217967/1/1

and we know that showing things in TV legitimates them and unleashes more or less serious emulation

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3w6pQEXMsw


look at this. just for your intellectual pleasure, the bald boys holler things like "get out fags", this video is cut, the full verison has been removed, guess why. some are masked as you can see. also, what i am attempting to say is, before i've never seen things like that in my country. if then in NYC you got accustomed to this kind of shit I cant see the point.

gays and lesbians are not the unique victims : lately the houses and camps of Rom gypsies seem quite prone to taking fire or ruin because of some erratical bulldozer ... in short, the new government is spelling hard times for everyone who is either different, poor or part of a minority. of course a government cant take position against the whole gay community (however we know the attitude of the right wing, mr. Berlusconi in campaign said that he knows that gay people generally dont cast their vote for his coalition, thus qualifying his realtionship with a world that he considers as one of his enemies. And here in Italy we know that he has ways and means to strike more or less openly everyone who he considers a threat to his climb to absolute power. may sound weird if one isnt accustomed to italian stories, but it is just that bad.

 

Totally agreed.

Maybe if gays didn't flaunt that their gay in public so much, maybe it'd be so much easier for people to accept us.

 

What's the scene in Milano?

 

This is not (just) my opinion.

another aggression today, ten young boys assaulted a gay couple with bottles and stones in Rome. for those who understand italian:

http://www.repubblica.it/2008/05/se...to/aggressione-fori/aggressione-fori.html?rss

in brief two guys in Rome, returning home hand in hand from a night spent in Gay Street, meet ten young boys who assault the gay couple with bottles and stones, this being the latest episode in Rome. Fabrizio Marrazzo, president of Arci Gay Rome , says and is not alone in thinking that Rome is no longer a safe place to live in for gay people. this is the direct consequence of the fascistisation of italian society, as pointed out not by some obscure commie newspaper but by the principal catholic magazine in Italy: "Famiglia Cristiana", the direct cause of it being the victory of mr. berlusconi's party which is in the methods and practice a disguised fascist party.

since that calamity we already had 90+ fascist aggressions of groups agains singles spotted for some "oddity" like: long hair, "che" shirts or the like, some fatal. many more against political targets.

tworupeesoul: dont know about Milano but afaik is not plagued with bands of fascists yelling and bashing everything they dont like as happens more and more often in Rome. still i dont think it is a good idea to come to Italy, for _anyone_ , gays and black (or better, not white) people first. the italian have been brainwashed by berlusconi's TVs and newspapers into thinking that the foreigners, the poor ones i mean, are their sole enemy and must be controlled, jailed, expelled. period.


but after all it is their playground since the major G. Alemanno IS a fascist and yesterday went to the hebraic community of Rome to tell that fascism wasnt that bad and racial laws against the jew came as an unwanted result etc. etc etc. causing the anger of the Auschwitz survivors.

 

just to give a full overview of the situation of the rights of homosexual people in Italy, the courts of Rome has decided that two boys ,Roberto and Michele, must undergo a trial for Obscene conduct for kissing in public, in july of 2007 , in Rome.

 

this makes me so sad. when i was living in rome, i was discriminated against quite a bit for being openly lesbian. i was fortunate to have a job as a nanny for people who didn't mind my being lesbian, as long as i didn't try to convince their kids it was "good" to be gay.

rome is such a beautiful city, but i have to say, i'm glad i no longer live there. it's been a while since i've been in my "home city" but it sounds like it has gotten so much worse, especially for gays, or anyone who is liberal and doesn't fit into certain classes. it always bothered me how badly italians in rome treated gypsies... downright terrible. and now gays are being physically attacked.... ugh!

 

a young policewoman yesterday said to the national TV that she outed her homosexuality and since then she got mobbed on the work and systematically humiliated. it was a great idea from your side to leave italy because this is a beautiful but useless country and if things dont change it's doomed to die.
hugs, stefano