Isn't Sarah Palin an insult to women's intelligence?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jamaican_youth, Aug 30, 2008.

  1. jamaican_youth

    jamaican_youth Senior Member

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    The choice is basically saying "woman will vote for a woman, regardless of what they believe". It's unbelievable to me, is this choice as transparent to anyone else as it is to me?
     
  2. Walelia2

    Walelia2 Guest

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    I would never vote for a woman just because she was a woman, just like I would never vote for someone just because of the colour of their skin. Its the issues that matter, not outward appearance.
     
  3. jamaican_youth

    jamaican_youth Senior Member

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    ^ Exactly, that's how an intelligent person thinks, but this choice is banking on people who don't think like that, I'm just hoping that's an extremely small minority. I guess the only good thing that can come out of this is that it might galvanize the Clintons to really campaign for Obama, as Palin is taking credit away from Hillary's historic campagin, and she still wants to be the first woman in the White House.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I agree. Don't discount her just because she's a woman. She's a governor that has stood up against the corruption in her own party, as well as upping taxes and making oil companies pay their way in her state. How many men have ever done that?


    She's not Hillary and that's one of the points in her favour.
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Simple answer to your question: No! She's not insult to anyone that wishes to vote for her.

    You'd be surprised at how rational women are. Much like not taking the black vote for granted with Obama, or the old vote with McCain. Women shouldn't be diminished just because they didn't choose to vote for a woman that supported a philandering husband. Sarah Palin is an individual and should be granted the same respect as any male individual on her own merits not like with Hillary and grant her credit based on her husband's political career. And think that if you elect Hillary you get Bill too...I think that image turned a lot of people off. We'd had enough of Bill.

    Just what were Hillary's personal experience points, she was a governor's wife, a president's wife, and a short term senator?
     
  6. jamaican_youth

    jamaican_youth Senior Member

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    There's no substance behind her though, McCain only chose her to get women's vote, anyone can see that, he'd only met her once, I mean come on, it's so obvious.

    She was chosen to add some spice to the McCain's campaign because so far, they've no excitement or enthusiasm, and she was chosen to pick up any stray hillary voters, her credentials were probably on the bottom of the list when picking her. They've been criticising Obama all this time about lack of experience, then he chooses a vp that has no better in that regard?

    Another simple question, would he have chosen her if Obama picked hillary? Smart choice to try and win the campaign, but very short sighted and very transparent.
     
  7. cozmo_g

    cozmo_g Is Out Of This World

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    I was discussing this exact point with a co-worker yesterday. To further expand on the topic, I think McCain is going to lose because of his choice...on purpose. Anyone remember when Obama went 'off the radar' in Virginia, while the Bilderberg group was meeting just down the road?
     
  8. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    It is absolutely an insult to women. It is a completely transparent move. However you do have to realize that this election is so heated and people are so passionate that they are not using any critical thinking skills. There is a woman on a ticket and some of your more unintelligable women will indeed vote for that.

    Oh this election is so fun to watch. The masterful 45th anniversary accetance speech for Obama and the announcement of Palin on pretty much the anniversary of the woman's right to vote. These people are playing any and all fields they can. To me it is absolutely hilarious. Though I do have a very strong opinion of who my candidate will be. I will vote in this election and I am excited to do so. But oh my goodness are they playing the psychology of the American people.

    So you can be insulted or you can laugh. I choose the second.
     
  9. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    But the thing is she seems to be liked by both fiscal and social conservatives. Her appeal to social conservatives(who MCcain needs to win) could be one of the main reasons MCcain chosed her.
     
  10. The_Moroccan_Raccoon

    The_Moroccan_Raccoon Senior Member

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    No, Sarah Palin is not an insult to women's intelligence. I disagree with her on nearly every issue, but we shouldn't think of her any differently than we would think about a male candidate. However, the fact that McCain sees her as a token female running mate is an insult. But that's just the way Republicans do things. Bush might have done the same if he was capable of finding Alaska on a map...or even if he was capable of finding Alaska on a map of Alaska.

    It's a good thing most women aren't stupid, and will probably see through that. Still, if she gets votes solely because of her policy, that could be even worse.
     
  11. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    America is all about identity politics, this is just the latest chapter.
     
  12. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    The reality is, McCain picked an attractive young female as his VP and called check to Obama's pick. (He was waiting for Obama to make a pick, before he solidified his own counter pick choice.) And really, picking a young female to campaign alongside McCain only makes him look increasingly old, out of touch with social policy and exacerbates the differences between himself and Palin.

    I... don't understand what this thread is originally about. Is Sarah Palin stupid?? Why would picking her be an insult to all women?
     
  13. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    Funny, didn't take long for people to stop talking about Obama's nomination and acceptance speech. Pretty damn good timing by the McCain campaign. The McCain campaign has seen a huge spike in interest with the annoucement of this new candidate, and I think they have gotten the attention of some of those who were not considering McCain before.
     
  14. Wasteland

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    Eh, no matter what happens, the democrats will lose in november because most voter are uninformed and vote with their emotions or whoever CNN and FOXNews tell them to vote for. That's why the choices are OBAMA AND MCCAIN!
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I agree it was a brilliant piece of marketing strategy. I didn't think the McCain campaign had it in them. I am considering voting for this Vice Presidential candidate. If that means voting for McCain as well that's a tradeoff. I personally don't favour either Obama or McCain, but a vote for Palin would be a vote against Washington as usual.
     
  16. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    no it would not

    washington will use that woman as a puppet

    she'll do anything they tell her . .

    that's why she's there. for the opportunity.
     
  17. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i heard on NPR yesterday afternoon that McCains campaign received 7 million dollars in donations in the 24 hours after announcing her as the VP pick.
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    She stood up against her own party in Alaska, I don't think she can be bought. Unless you think that because she's a woman then it should follow that she can be controlled...which is an insult to women.

    The Dems insulted the intelligence of women by thinking because Hillary was a woman she could buy the woman's vote. Hillary for many women is not a role model. She voted for the war without demanding irrefutable proof of WMD, she has caved on many republican issues, she enabled a philandering husband, the Clinton finances and foreign interest connections are not above reproach. Hillary was only seen as viable by those that thought by electing her, they also got Bill. Many of us were sick and tired of Bill.
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think she's going to prove hard to beat as far as the working mother's vote. And it looks to me like that's exactly what she's been. I look forward to seeing her attend meetings with Trig on her hip, thus opening up areas of opportunity for other working women.

    http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=13448

     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I believe idea is that if McCain picked her just to pick up disgruntled Hillary supporters that would be an insult, not that Sarah Palin herself is an insult
     
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