Bad Trip //what can i learn

it made sense to me. tripping makes no sense from the 3-dimensional ego perspective, but it makes sense when you step outside of it. Sounds like your trip did end up good; i don't hear a lot of people who drink all night then wake up the next morning feeling good and thinking about stuff, although they do seem to swear off alcohol in vain haha. sounds to me like the universe was just trying to expose your naked soul to you; whether we want to see that is a different story!

 

ok for everyone who says I am not telling the truth about my trip.
I really do not care I saw what I saw. And I was just trying to help this guy out and told him how my trip was. also when I smoke herb I trip really hard. like it goes from everything moving to everything morphing into something else and just insane. but this is never on acid only on shrooms and 2c-e.
but yeah it is possible hallucinating hard like that. you just need to take alot .

 

aww. poor guy. sorry man. i didn't realize, you must a fucking insano nut case. did your dad make you suck his dick when you were a kid? :[
did he make you give him rim jobs after a long day at work?

 

and that's 2-cb... ya dumb fuck :]

 

youre making a fool of yourself now

 

I've had serious distorted trips like that before, sitting on a river bank looking across I could see cowboys and Indians, no fuckin shit, i swear...but they weren't actually cowboys and indians, and for the most part i knew that, but things have a way of distorting themselves and your imagination twists a lot and gives in to the trip...its beautiful

 

You can learn to try and enjoy what you pay for.

 

It's really hard for anyone other than yourself to know what you have to learn from your trip. From the little you wrote in your original post it seems like you were afraid of letting go and afraid of the trip. I'm not sure but there's a good chance that if you trip again with more of an open mind about what psychedelic drugs can do for you then you will have a better trip. If you become afraid realize what you are afraid of and think about why you are afraid of this. Even if something completely evil is about to overtake your reality being afraid of it will only increase the chances that you will not deal with the situation in a way that will benefit you. If someone comes running at you with a sword and you become afraid the chances of them cutting your head off increases but if you are not afraid and withdraw your own sword and fight with strength and confidence you increase your chances of survival. I'm not trying to suggest that a psychedelic trip is as dangerous as a sword fight, I was just trying to help you understand fear. The same goes with a demon, if you are afraid of a demon it will be able to possess you but if you are not afraid it will not be able to possess you. There are so many different things that can cause a negative psychedelic experience. Make sure that you are living a good honest life everyday. If you cannot feel good about who you are there's a good chance that you will not have a wonderful psychedelic experience unless of course you're willing to let the trip show you how you could be better at life. Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, and definitely do not kill someone unless it is kill or be killed. These are very simple guidelines that can be summed up with just a few words "do unto others as you would have done unto yourself". If you do this you'll feel good about who you are. Honesty is usually the most difficult part for people as our culture does not promote honesty. Of course it is not black-and-white as you can be a relatively good person who is not completely honest and still feel relatively good about who you are. As long as your on a path to becoming a better person you can feel good about who you are and where you're going in life. We cannot change overnight and doing the right thing is never easy.

As for a couple of these narrowminded fools suggesting that it is impossible to see a gargoyle outside on the lawn -- just because you haven't experienced something does not mean that it is impossible. Maybe your imagination is not good enough. The way it was for me and I imagine it to be the same for everyone is that you will not be able to see such things until you believe that it is possible. I have seen an alien standing in my living room and I've seen two lizards wrestling on my carpet. These were three dimensional and very real but I was the only one that could see them. I was talking with my brother when all of a sudden the room turned into a jungle and he was in an Army uniform with a gun. I've seen friends turn into other creatures and aliens, seen girlfriends turn into snakes and other trippy creatures. I've seen so many interesting things, too many to list in this post.

 

i'd like to see you on mushies or LSD, so mean!

 

Wherever there is anger there is sadness underneath, and wherever there is sadness there is pain/fear underlying. :[

 

Next time you trip I think you should take a 10 strip. Taking your frustrations out on everyone around you will not fix your problems. I know it might seem like it makes you feel better but it is very obvious to everyone that you are very lost, very confused and very hurt, looking for attention in all the wrong ways.

Do you think anyone cares about you and your negative attitude? Sure we care about you and wish you weren't so much of an asshole but we sure as hell don't care what you have to say.

 

i second this.
the anger and animosity would make for a great 10 stripper

 

naw man your fucking stupid you cant trip like that man. o wait yes you can. zach just needs to quit being a pussy and take more.

 

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yeah right man Zachsb says it is not possible to trip like that. so you must be telling lies here 3xi !!

 

You struck right at the heart of the cause of most bad trips 3Xi, not letting go and allowing the experience to show you what it will. LSD can be brutally honest as you are confronted with yourself, thats part of what is coined "ego death". If you are very rigid in your concept of who and what you are and fight any idea contrary to that concept of self, watch out, Lucy's gonna bitch slap ya. Time to shed the layers you thought were "I" and come face to face with the truth about your true self.
"As I cuddled the porcupine he said I had none to blame but me. Held my heart deep in hair, time to shave, shave it off, it off".
As far as the fear aspect goes a Filipino friend I had many years ago who was a master+++ of martial arts and yoga, his father started training him when he was four, when I knew him he was 27, had this to say. He said that any time you encounter someone or something during meditation or a psychedelic trip that no matter what it was, you had to make it your friend and come to understand it. It is just a part of you and you must make it your friend or it may kill you.
So come to terms with whatever you may encounter during a bad trip or it can damage you, the more a person tries to resist the more likely harm will come of it.
If you cannot face, accept and try to transform the darkest parts of yourself, then you have no business using these substances.
If you don't grasp what I'm saying than you definitly should wait until you have reached that level of maturity.
As far as the degree to the realism of hallucinations go I've seen cartoons come off the TV and run around the room before going back into the TV. How real these experiences are is a very subjective thing. Sure we can clinically analyze them and point out that it was just a aberation of the scene on the TV that I saw, and it wasn't a "true" hallucination. But at the time their sure as shit was a wolf chasing Bugs Bunny around my living room!!
All I say to those who say it not possible to have visuals like that is, describe a sunset to someone who has been blind since birth, or even the color red.

 

yeah dude i did an 1/8th my first time and like i went so crazy in my head that i had already exepted that i was stuck in a dimension between life and death and at one point couldnt comunicate with my friends. the trip seemed to last an eternity but im already planning on doing the same amout (possibly canyfliping) just because now i know what to expect. the first time i was just so confused and blow away about what was going on it was hard to enjoy it. i basically was like scared the entire time. but god damn, you have no idea what its like when you've excepted your stuck in anpother dimention forever and you will never see your family or friends or do any of the cool stuff you used to do again, and the suddenly "snap" the shrooms started wearing off and god it was so unbelivibly releiving. like i was so happy after that. it was like your parents dying and then four hours later they came back to life. it was scary. i definatly appreciated everything i have and i even started hanging out with my dad more often becuasei didnt want to loose them again in a sense. but i figure if i can change all that negitive energy of fear into ephoria and exitment then holy shit tripping will be unbelivable.

so basically yeah i definatly got somthing good out of a bad trip.

 

The trip will tell you all there is to know. We don't know what happened so we don't have the answers.

Introspection is advised.

 

If you have straight up seen something that isn't there, my personal opinion is that its a mental thing. It is however, just another part of the trip and although it is just in your mind you can consider it an effect of the drug.

I do recall stories from Hunter S. Thompson of seeing his grandmother crawling up his leg with a knife between her teeth, but he was crazy as shit not to mention on more drugs than is probably possible. Also, its hard to know how much he exaggerated and how much actually happened.

 

My first bad trip and my worst was the 3rd time i dropped i learned all of my faults...and how much i hated my self...i left a peice of me behinde that night...and it took another trip to retrive that peice...as of now i havent been this happy since i was a kid...but it does depends how u end your trip on how it will affect you...i remember standing in my grandmas kitchen at 10am after being up all night and setting my mood and watching the whole world loose its grayish crazy glow to a sunny happy glow...