concentration camp readied for DNC protesters..

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  1. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story?id=5668622&page=1

    ABC Reporter Arrested in Denver Taking Pictures of Senators, Big Donors


    Asa Eslocker Was Investigating the Role of Lobbyists and Top Donors at the Convention


    DENVER--Police in Denver arrested an ABC News producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of Democratic Senators and VIP donors leaving a private meeting at the Brown Palace Hotel.

    Police on the scene refused to tell ABC lawyers the charges against the producer, Asa Eslocker, who works with the ABC News investigative unit.

    A cigar-smoking Denver police sergeant, accompanied by a team of five other officers, first put his hands on Eslocker's neck, then twisted the producers arm behind him to put on handcuffs.

    A police official later told lawyers for ABC News that Eslocker is being charged with trespass, interference, and failure to follow a lawful order. He also said the arrest followed a signed complaint from the Brown Palace Hotel.

    Eslocker was put in handcuffs and loaded in the back of a police van which headed for a nearby police station.

    Video taken at the scene shows a man, wearing the uniform of a Boulder County sheriff, ordering Eslocker off the sidewalk in front of the hotel, to the side of the entrance.

    The sheriff's officer is seen telling Eslocker the sidewalk is owned by the hotel. Later he is seen pushing Eslocker off the sidewalk into oncoming traffic, forcing him to the other side of the street.

    It was two hours later when Denver police arrived to place Eslocker under arrest, apparently based on a complaint from the Brown Palace Hotel, a central location for Democratic officials.

    Eslocker and his ABC News colleagues are spending the week investigating the role of corporate lobbyists and wealthy donors at the convention for a series of Money Trail reports on ABC World News with Charles Gibson.
     
  2. stalk

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    "Signed complaint"

    You mean a check$$??
     
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  4. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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  5. Burnt

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    There's going to be a day when the the police abuse protesters who are not peaceful people.
     
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    Burnt Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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  7. stalk

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    so these protesters that got arrested went to the camp?
    or what?
     
  8. Burnt

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    Yes, it was a makeshift, jail in a warehouse, it looks like a dog kennel more than anything.
     
  9. LanSLIde

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    So they had a permit, right?
     
  10. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Ofcourse not.
    They should not have even been there.
    But this was I imagine a question of: Freedom of speach.
     
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    If you think they should not have been there
    I don't think you should be here

    You never offer anything other than your ignorant skepticism.
     
  12. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Legaly they should not have been there.
    It was a question of "Free speach", right?

    So what is ignorant about that?
     
  13. stalk

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    We're allowed to be on the street.
     
  14. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    It should be as simple as that.
    It is not as simple as that.

    "Most protestors were held on either failure to obey a police order, interference with police, or blocking a public roadway, Spalding (Dan Spalding, a member of the People's Law Project) said. All are Denver municipal charges"
     
  15. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    Ok.

    Look, Odon

    Come to America.

    Come over here and see for yourself.

    You listen to the news.....

    that's all you know. You have no idea.
     
  16. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    The News and sites like this one and sites like this: http://dncdisruption08.org/

    I am only talking about the protests.
    Not the whole state of America.
    What do you think I don't know about the protests?
     
  17. polecat

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    yeah, and the whole "right to peaceably assemble" from the 1st amendment. I don't think the constitution mentioned anything about permits...
     
  18. odon

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    Most of the protests as far as I am aware went with out incident and were fairly "peaceable".
    I've only seen a few violent outbreaks.
    Have there been more?
    It is a well trodden arguement on both side about the: "right to peaceably assemble" "Take back the streets" and the right to protest (where ever you want) etc etc etc..
    We have the same debate here.

    http://londonist.com/2007/04/join_the_mass_lone_protest.php

    Most reasonable protestors realise to protest in the way people have every single day of the week would dimish any public support for the cause. So they pick on high profile events like the DNC and the RNC.

    If you don't think there should be certain boundaries anywhere ever, fine.
    I think there should be.
    Because with rights come responsibilities that it seems some people push to the limit and sometimes break.
     
  19. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Remember it does say: That the citizens have a right, in a peaceable manner, to assemble together for the common good...

    That is a responsibility.
     
  20. Burnt

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    They have every legal right to be there, here is an article from the Colorado constitution

    Section 10. Freedom of speech and press. No law shall be passed impairing the freedom of speech; every person shall be free to speak, write or publish whatever he will on any subject, being responsible for all abuse of that liberty; and in all suits and prosecutions for libel the truth thereof may be given in evidence, and the jury, under the direction of the court, shall determine the law and the fact.


    And then the US constitution

    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    As seen in both articles that no law may be passed that will impair freedom of speech
    so requiring a group to get a permit is unlawful and confronting them with police force is illegal
     
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