It seems ironic to me that liberals are often considered idealists. Conservatives seem to be the ones who base their policies on the best case scenarios - take abortion, for instance. Pro-lifers hope for no unplanned pregnancies while liberals realize they are inevitable and allow for the necessary solution. Conservatives hope that foreigners don't come here illegally while liberals realize that it is going to happen no matter what and try to make the best of it. I can probably think up more examples and I'm also generalizing hugely but my battery is about to die and I'm tired, so just chew on this for a bit and discuss the issue.
Just what have conservatives done for limiting unwanted pregnancies. Have they held the males responsible? It's a hot button issue they use when expedient. They really don't care about life or they wouldn't be out starting wars and conflicts over oil.
And that's the problem with labels. Because when someone chooses to label themselves, they are pigeonholing themselves. They are choosing to identify with others who choose to label themselves with that title also, whether they hold the same beliefs as them or not. Saying that every conservative that is against abortion loves war is a huge generalization, though at the government level that certainly appears to be true. (Whether they are truly against abortion (which I doubt) or only "against" it to appeal to voters is a different story.) The the thing is, these people pushing for wars technically are not conservatives. They are neoconservatives, which has nothing to do with traditional conservatism. They simply use the veneer of being socially conservative to attract voters and get those voters behind their murderous agenda, while meanwhile they are having butt sex with men in airport bathrooms or mollesting young boys. Liberal-conservative/Democrat-Republican -- these are all pretty much manufactured labels that have little meaning anymore. They exist more for divide and conquer purposes than anything else. If people saw the truth and knew what was going on, there would be no need for any of these stupid titles that people love to place on themselves.
I'd love to understand how anyone can think they can control unwanted births without addressing why young males tally up pregnacies like notches on their belts, but in essecence want no repsonsibility. That's the LARGE problem not women aborting babies, it's males making babies but not claiming reponsibility but tallying notches. Address that first!
why are you laying the blame on the male? its not like the female doesnt take part in the process.. there are such things as birth control as well as abstinence.. theres not a male on earth besides a rapist who makes a baby without a woman being a consenting party in the act.
Why should the woman be solely responsible for birth control? Many are, but why shouldn't we be a society where the male is equally as responsible for only creating the lives they wish to be responsible for. Male contraception is a hell of a lot easier than female.
are you feeling lonley?? whose trying to put these notches in their belt? most dudes have no desire for kids while there in there prime! now woman at that time is a whole different story! and did you say its esier for the male to use birth controll than the female? have you ever had long lasting passionate sex?? the pill is as effective as a condom!! but if your THINKING! if her body temp is high and shes all over your ass then shes probably ovulating i wish you the best of luck!!!!! "JUST SAY NO!!" lol! but absolutly if it comes around then stand up!
Males and females are both equally responsible for the birth of a child. It's easier for males to not want to take care and nurture the child because, for the most part, we just want sex and pleasure. With that sex and pleasure comes a risk, a baby, and if there happens to be one we just don't want to help. But I think a guy should be locked up if he doesn't at least pay money to the mother once a month, which is how it is right now. If they were forced to take care of the child and they didn't want it, they could just mistreat and abuse the kid, leading to more problems.
So in essence we agree. So why all the political hooplah over aborting a mass of multiplying cells. Why is the abortion issue so important, but the paternity issue is never addressed?
Some people will say a "mass of multiplying cells." Others will say a human life. Personally, I don't take sides of being "for" or "against" on this issue (or any issue for that matter), though I do understand the true nature of abortion and how it ties in with a much greater eugenics agenda. I am aware of how people like Planned Parenthood founder, Margaret Sanger, believed that blacks are of an inferior stock, and no doubt today most abortion clinics are found in predominately black neighborhoods.
I think the original post is a good one, and he makes a valid point. Conservatives like to say that if there was no Social Security program, people would set aside money for retirement or disability, for instance. And resist the urge to spend on trivial things like oh maybe chemotherapy, a child's funeral, or food and shelter. But they certainly know better, and support dismantling pretty much any program that helps people less fortunate only so they have someone to look down their noses at. That's pretty much the definition of conservatives: people who really do think they're better than you.
Why label any group? People should move away from the liberal vs conservative ideas and support things because they believe them, not because someone told them to or the group they are labeled as supports it.
