Bad Trip //what can i learn

I have only had acid once and it was a bad trip for the majority of the night.I felt ok at the start all funny and that but it suddently turned bad because of me freakin out but i was wondering if you can get anything out of a bad trip like about yourself and the world or anything else just like a good trip but not as pleasant.I cant think of anything good i got out of that trip other than the start of it and the end of it as i seen holy crosses on the walls and that made me feel at ease and ralexed but like i said the majority of the night was scary.I feel like i have missied out by not having a good trip and would like to do it again sometime in the future when i am mentally ready as i was not mentaly prepared the first time.Is a bad trip for a first timer more harmfull than a bad trip to an experienced user ? what can you learn from a bad trip ? what does a bad trip tell you ?

 

well I learned so much about myself. well let my first time taking shrooms I did not read up on them or anything. so I took 1 gram and tripped a little but not good.
so the next time I did them. me and my friend got some more and he took 3 grams and I took 5 ( ha was i in for a ride ) well the trip started with me going outside and seeing small grimlin/gargoil creatures coming out of the ground and they all had small weapons like axes and sicles coming out of the ground. and I just freaked out because I had never hallucinated before lol.
but yeah that night was the craziest night of my life.
it made me appreciate everything I have. all my friends al my family.

 

with LSD, d think that you would feel a deep understanding of what triggered/saved your bad trip.


personally, i had a horrible mushroom trip where i felt like nothing mattered (in a bad way) and i was going to die (knew i wouldnt though-but couldnt overcome that feeling of utter agony).
during the trip i considered leading a drug-free life from then on, and felt compelled to list what is/isnt ok for me (thoughts are too muddled to do it in my head)
In the end, I had a glowing comedown (swam in lake, shook away hazed memories), and realised my list wasnt complete (wrote WEED OK, and thats it) and that i had no real firm decision on what i should be taking with me from the trip.

 

you're lieing dude. you've abviously never done any psychedelics before.
that grimlin gargoil hallucination is a load of bullshit.

 

i can imagine that sort of hallucination
i think youre misinterpretting his description

 

actually no im not. so shut the fuck up. just because you have not seen shit like that doesnt mean you can not.
so until you know your shit just shut the fuck up. also try eating 5 grams of potent fungi and smoking continuously till they kick in ( around 4 bowls and a blunt ) and then go outside by yourself at 11 oclock at night. also it was my frist time tripping on anything other then 1 gram

 

double my b

 

Actually, I've eaten a quarter and smoked constantly and never seen anything that wasn't there. I've seen a guy take somewhere upwards of a 10-strip (he kind of got puddled), smoke DMT for his first time, then think that Satan had possessed him. I've taken K, LSD, DMT, mushrooms, MDMA and more other non-psychs together (as did others I was with), I've seen people take a bite out of a sheet of acid, and not ONE time did ANYONE see anything that wasn't there. Yeah, things warp like crazy and your mind forms patterns on things, but never are you going to actually see a 3-D object that wasn't here from a psychedelic. You get that from deliriants such as Datura.

 

I think in the dark when very stoned, various forms and shrubs can have enough shape and detail to warp into creepy subhominid forms with scything appendages
So tell us, Kramazing, were they clear and distinct from their environment, or were they shifting out of it in a psychedelic growth?

 

The only true hallucination I know of next to distortion of gross objects, is the neon that appears at the point where vision from both eyes meet.
And that, in my opinion, is not a hallucination but is our energy of ajna chakra projected outward. But nobody actually knows what the neon blossoms are so it's anyone's guess.
God Bless +

 

i also had some crazy "visuals" while tripping on acid...

it was at night and we were in the woods trying to "escape" haha and i was climbing over some rocks (about knee height) and i swear it looked like they were turning into hands and fingers, it was crazy!! and they were moving and trying to pull me into the ground kind of scary but it was SO visually appealling that i wasnt even really scared haha
i just felt a little worried cause i wasnt sure if we'd be able to find the trail on the way back during the night and tripping HARD

 

I had a persistent hallucination of a scary dwarf on marijuana last night. It was not a distortion of an object. I call it persistent for two reasons; 1, it wasn't just a flash of an image (which I get with marijuana dozens and dozens of times per session, hallucinations that last for 1 and less seconds) it actually stayed there for 3-5 seconds, and 2, it wasn't located "in space" but rather always in the bottom left of my vision, so as I whirled my head to focus on it, it just stayed in my bottom left field of view and a bit out of focus.

And that's just some good marijuana. Powerful LSD or mushrooms can definetely make you see all kinds of stuff that is simply either not there at all, or is such a gross warping of reality that it becomes a moot point whether or not that thing you saw was your mind warping the image of a rock, or your mind warping the image of something in your mind.

Everyone experiences psychedelics differently, and for some people the visual aspect is stronger. I tend to be in that group of people, and you are not. That's all there is to it, it's not about us lying or exaggerating, it's about us reacting to a drug in ways that are different and explainable by differences in set, setting, and individual.

 

-- yeah thats kinda how i felt like i was going to die or was dead and wishing i never took it lol but it deffinetly changed the way i think about everything.Also i cant remember a lot as i was fading in and out of consciousness! Maybe it was because i took the so called "hero dose" haha just my inexperince!.

 

you can hallucinate very easily as one of my friends thought he was a pack of cards < i cant get my head around that one lol plus i seen spiders crawling about,holy symbols and dots of electricity n stuff but i suppose thats a mild hallucination compared to seing gremlings and creatures coming at you but it happens

 

Ive had some pretty solid hallucinations from salvia. not from thin air, but rather one object or marking apearing to become a 3D object that the mind instinctively pairs with something known. (IE: i watched a cicular crack in the floor appear to take the shape, or rather i felt it was taking the shape, of an eyeball. )

 

yes, that was the problem with mushrooms. I was unable afterwards to really pull any conclusion from the trip except that i wouldnt approach mushrooms similarily again, and that it was an experience that i am glad i have few memories of. (according to a friend, i told him i wanted to slit my wrists. i have no such memory, but in that state it was probably possible)

there is a full thread on it here: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=312949

 

Originally Posted by Kramazing
well I learned so much about myself. well let my first time taking shrooms I did not read up on them or anything. so I took 1 gram and tripped a little but not good.
so the next time I did them. me and my friend got some more and he took 3 grams and I took 5 ( ha was i in for a ride ) well the trip started with me going outside and seeing small grimlin/gargoil creatures coming out of the ground and they all had small weapons like axes and sicles coming out of the ground. and I just freaked out because I had never hallucinated before lol.
but yeah that night was the craziest night of my life.
it made me appreciate everything I have. all my friends al my family.

Haha fucking called.

 

From my experiences, bad trips and good trips show both ends of the spectrum of life

My good trip on shrooms and good 20 seconds on ecstasy showed me how happy life can be, how pure and beautiful everything is

When i have bad trips on weed i get paranoid and just learn how fucked up my head can think
I can get schizophrenic thoughts and really nasty ideas on a bad weed trip, nothing good learned out of that except stay away from bad trips


I had a bad 1/2 trip on shrooms and everybody looked either too fat or too skinny, grotesque and I started to think that as a species, humans are taking our
bad habits and emotions to corrupted level
lazyness, greed, jealousy, overdoing things that make you happy like food, drugs, sex, putting down others to make yourself feel alright

All the nasty things you can see in the world
At the same time, if I was having a good trip i wouldn't see visually (grotesque) bad things but instead I would focus on the good

A simple lesson but I live by it now
In any situation our minds can focus on good or bad, you just gotta focus on the good

 

psychedlic growth.

 

I have never had a fun night tripping. When I was in high school I ate an eighth of mushrooms for the first time with my girlfriend. I was all giggly for the first little while but it got way too intense for me. She had a tiger print bedspread that was fucking with me and I felt like the bed was like 50 feet off the ground and I felt like I was going to fall off. I also couldnt look anybody in the face because they were so distorted and looked like weird babies. At one point I just couldnt take it and I just layed there and thought about god. I just kept telling myself that god is here with me and he is not mad. He is going to get me through the night. So as I lay there with my gf not saying anything. I just have this urge to "clean myself" I take off all my clothes and feel a little better but still feel like something is wrong. I realize I am wearing earings and that they are trapping me or something. I Take them out and just lay there and think for the rest of the night. I kept getting scared that if i think too hard it might kill me then that would make me think even more. I even started thinking that maybe everything in my life was just in my mind and that I was the god of my mind and that if I thought about dying that I would die. I was so not mature enough to be tripping like this and I only ate mushrooms a few more times and the only times i enjoyed it were when I only ate a little bit. I never saw any gremlins and I dont think that mushrooms would do that. I do think that mushrooms give me this dark lonly dreery trip. I thought that they would give a happier trip than acid but i found acid to be more enjoyable. Acid is just like an annoying freind that comes and sits beside you and says " im gonna be here all night" I dont get scared so much like on mushrooms but As soon as I start tripping I start thinking that this just isnt right. And I get scared that ill never go back to normal. One night I just sat in the bathroom floor about halfway through the trip and waited for my freind acid to leave. There was this faded striped towel on the floor and I just sat there and watched it. It was like the colors were trying to come back and the towel was just kind of pulsating. I just sat there and about 9 hours after dosing, my freind was getting tired and decided to leave. The next morning I felt good. I just went and drove around the in the country and thought about stuff and swore off tipping for good. None of this probably made sense but hey tripping doesnt make sense.