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Discussion in 'Exotic Psychedelic Plants' started by PeaceAndRasta, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    hmm i was thinking of trying mg seeds at first, but its kida takes a lot of effort compared to hbw, so i would like to know about your experience with that, and your opinion.
    btw, where can i find it? except the internet

    thank you for any help!
     
  2. methanol

    methanol Member

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    I'll answer your second question first, because it's shorter and more simple to answer. You can only find them in native Hawaii, or where someone is intentionally growing them. Say, India for example. What I'm saying is, hunting in the wild isn't going to yield any results unless you live where it's meant to grow, or you break through the fence of a high security Indian growing operation. :eek:

    As for dosage, this correspond only to my use, and my use only. I purchased seeds online for an extremely high price. I wanted the best. You can get strains from Ghana, India, and other third world countries (pardon me if India isn't third world to you, no offense intended), or you can do what I did and get the viable (you can plant them) strain grown in Hawaii.

    The main advantage to the Hawaiian strain is that they are grown without the notorious "fuzzy coating", which seems to be high in Cyanide content.

    However, the shell also contains Cyanide compounds, and that's where I screwed up.

    From my personal experiences, ONE HBWR seed of the Hawaiian strain is equal to about One HUNDRED morning glory seeds. For my experience, I consumed ten and a half seeds.

    The half of a seed came from the failed attempt at de-shelling the seed. :)

    Now, actually removing the shell is extremely time consuming. So time consuming that I gave up. It is very woody, and unless you're good with an exacto knife, it's going to take a LOT of patience to remove.

    But be warned: you MUST remove the shell.

    I ate the ten and a half seeds outright and paid dearly.

    I spent the first four hours laying awake, thinking I was dying. The nausea was unbearable. I was hearing voices in my head, seeing people I knew and telling them to get out because they weren't real, etc.

    Keep in mind.. I have tripped many, many times and am both a very stable person and have never had a bad trip. I just way over-estimated the strength of HBWR.

    I was seeing things you don't typically see with morning glory: lightning on the walls, full on demntia, etc.

    After six hours, I vomited black -- an obvious side effect of cyanide.

    I would recommend vomiting as soon as you feel you need to, rather than waiting it out.

    As soon as I let it out, the trip became extremely pleasant. Physically and mentally I felt great.

    Figured out the meaning to life and other things you typically figure out while tripping HARD.

    So my personal recommendation is, start with five seeds of the Hawaiian strain. If that doesn't work out for you, move up to eight the following week.

    And above all, take the time to remove the shell! That is THE most important part. You'll pay if you don't.
     
  3. dgdys90

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    While it does help to remove the shell there are other less time consuming ways of tripping without getting sick.

    Personally my favorite psychedelic is HBW. If you take about 12 of them and grind them up in a coffee grinder and let them sit in distilled water for about 6 hours stirring about every 2 hours you still get the full affect of the LSA without nearly as much nausea.

    I have taken up to 17 seeds with this method and only felt nausea equivalent to about eating 5 or 6 straight up.

    I on the other hand have never tried MG seeds. I dont plan on it either. From what I have heard HBW are much better than MG.
     
  4. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    tnx for your help, so u recommend buying online? and what kind?
    did u always vomite when u did that? doesnt vomitin can get u less effects?
    and do u just take the skin off and chew it and swallo? or chew and keep it in your mout for a while?


    and dgdys90,
    nice way too, but it will be a lot easier for me to just eat it straight up...
    what source did u get your seeds from?


    tnx a lot,
     
  5. methanol

    methanol Member

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    The best method is shaving off the shell with a knife, pounding the seeds out with a hammer, and making a tea. By that I mean, take hot, but NOT boiling water, and stir in the powder. Most of it should settle. Add sugar to taste.

    The reason you can't use boiling water is because Lysergic Acids break down quite readily in high temperatures.

    http://iamshaman.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductUID=1832&ProductCode=HHB-50

    That is by far the best you can buy, in my opinion.

    To curb nausea, try to drink the tea on an empty stomach. However, if you must eat, try and make the meal low in lipids (fats). Lipids tend to make the nausea far worse. Also, my friends have had great success with Dramamine tablets to the tune of about two at the beginning, and one in the middle of the experience.

    Dramamine can be purchased anywhere, from grocery stores to gas stations. It's a very common anti-motion sickness pill.

    I have to go pick up my car from the shop now, let me know of any more questions.

    -Methanol
     
  6. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    thanks a lot man, i think what im gonna do is this. peal the seeds, and chew one after one, and eat some ginger, i heard it helps with nausea when taken cacti.
    now, my fist step is to buy the seed of the internet, so what source is your fave? and i live in florida btw
     
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    iamshaman.net
     
  8. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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  9. methanol

    methanol Member

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    That's where I ordered from. Check your local laws just to be safe.

    Otherwise, you're good.
     
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  11. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    what kind should i get?
    are all the kinds work??
    cause the hawaiian one is a lot more expensive than others...
     
  12. SonnyPizzicato

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    I noticed the Hawaiian strain has less white fuzzy stuff which I guess is supposed to be cyanide on the shell which gives me one HELL of a stomach ache and when I say that I am under exaggerating a FUC LOAD. You will vomit violently for like an hour if you don't get it all off.
     
  13. methanol

    methanol Member

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    The hawaiian strain also has a far higher LSA content.

    $17.99 buys 50 seeds, which is easily 10 doses for the typical person. If you do the math, that's $1.80 or so per trip.

    That's extremely cheap.

    Don't skimp on this one my friend. The Hawaiian strain is really the ONLY way to go.
     
  14. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    had u tried the indian one?
     
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    Argyreia nervosa, no more then 4 months old
     
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