I have a lot of doubt and skepticism about opiates, anything that can be physically addicting really. I smoke weed near every day and I've done DXM here and there, I wouldn't say I have an addictive personality but I've seen people close to me die or code from xannies, somas and oxy's. So naturally I'm a tad afraid to venture into the realm. if I were to do it, what is a mid power opiant to start off on, I don't want to head straight into heaven for fear of addiction. I've taken hydrocodone before for actual pain and one time I took too many before school and first and second period was awesome, I felt good inside and didn't really care about the rest of the world. Hmm.. I just don't know.
well if you want to try them make a limit of like no more than once a week/month etc if u do it alot im sure ull get addicted.
No, not weekly, monthly. Doing it every week allows you to slip into a pattern of doing it a lot easier. And do it if you want, be aware of the risks and pros and cons and just see for yourself.
That's up to you dude. The smart decision would obviously to be not get involved, nobody is going to recommend you to do it. However, opiates are amazing and yes many people can control it without getting addicted. They are also relatively harmless on your body and don't really "intoxicate" you so you generally won't do stupid shit you will regret while on them and usually people have no idea you are on them. If you decide to do it, try to keep it to no more than once a week. Opiates in moderation can be a beautiful thing--but keep in mind once you know the feeling, it will make feeling normal very boring. This in my opinion is the worst thing about opiates and drugs in general--even if you moderate you're use successfully, you will always know that you could be feeling "better" at any time. Keep that in mind.
Just like you said..You took em' once n you felt great on the inside and didn't care about the rest of the world--And its just that. It makes you comfortablly numb. Anything can be happening around you and you don't care so inturn nothing bothers you and you love it because there's just no life stresses on your shoulders anymore as well as that great warm feeling on the inside. So no matter what your just chasing that, so any dosage that just works is enough really. So like 2-4 vike 10's would be good. If you took too much you'd prob. throw up. Enjoy! Be good! - D
good up to throwing up part. a good opiate high always entails puking sometime. catch a nod and not puke at the end of your stash? weird methods..
I know this sounds like a bad thing to say at first, but snorting opiates causes almost zero nausea. You can also use less and achieve a better high from it. However, that's mainly with oxy. I've taken 45mg of Hydro with 4500mg acetaminophen and felt absolutely fine (but I didn't get very high at all). Anyways, if you have a personality that easily gets attached to pleasure, it's a good idea to stay away from opiates. Once you feel a REAL opiate high it's hard to ignore/forget that feeling. I haven't even touched a needle, but I've done large doses of oxycodone intranasally and it's REALLY damn good. Good luck :cheers2:
Yes, it is. But at least I shun the act before I state it Yea, if you snort stuff you'll get hooked quicker (unless you have some self control). However, if you already have pretty good self control, you might want to try NOT snorting anything. I'm just gonna say that opiates can be fun if you stay cautious.
I dont waste my time with hydrocodone, it does absolutely nothing to me.. and snorting doesnt give you a better high, it just hits you faster so you feel the 'rush', but it doesnt last as long as oral ingestion. eating oxy and hydro has a higher bioavailability, and therefore should theoretically get you higher, and it works for me. But even with IR pills, you still dont get the 'rush'.
I'd start at the bottom of the chain like most people... start off with popping about 3-4 hydros.. and see how it makes you feel... yea.. but you have worked up a pretty good opiate tolerance.. he should get off fine on 15-20mgs of hydrocodone
yeah definitely. 20mgs of hydro got me so high my first time, it was great. but it only worked the first time. About a week or two later, I obtained 30mg of the same hydros, from the same kid, and popped all 30, and nothing! just got a little bit lightheaded and itchy as hell, but for nothing. no high whatsoever. after that, I got some tramadols, which are supposed to be weaker than hydro, but the trams got me higher. Since then, I've only done oxy, and tried hydro one last time and dissapointing results again.
hydros are one of those pills that need a dance partner to make it work right... ie.. Alcohol.. Pot.. more opiates..
Hydros never had the magic in them for me Even 45mg with 0 tolerance. I know the bioavailability is higher with oral consumption, but oxy seems to just do terrible things to me when I take it orally. Filtered codeine works wonders, though! btw, who here is a regular opiate user and has also tried Kratom? I'd love to hear more about the comparison, because I'm thinking of getting a little later.
i have some thats been in my freezer for maybe a year by now.. but i have never tried it LOL... T3's never did shit for me btw..
LOL yeah, but anyways, lucky you man!! although I heard they're not as good as everything thinks when snorted or swallowed. But that they're as magical as heroin when IVed.
